EWR engine fail RTF
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Kudos to the crew for handling ghe emergency and getting everyone on the ground and evacuated safely! My question is given the crew reported smoke in the cockpit then cabin would it have been prudent to cut the bleeds before the smoke started to prevent it from occurring in the first place? In other words engine damage/fire should have a memory item BLEEDS/PACKS OFF. My thinking on this was if we are having to contend with APUs dumping smelly cancer socks into the air system and we turn the packs/bleeds off right away why no do the same to lfor eng damage/fire? Even for perhaps engine surging.
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Did the engine fail as in flameout or did it eat itself?
Now I haven’t read the light/switch guide in a while but I stayed at one of our luxurious holiday inn express last night….the fire light switch isolates the problem doesn’t it? Which one of those steps it does so is closing the bleed.
Now I haven’t read the light/switch guide in a while but I stayed at one of our luxurious holiday inn express last night….the fire light switch isolates the problem doesn’t it? Which one of those steps it does so is closing the bleed.
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When you hit the FIRE button on ENG it
Silences Aural warning
Arms Squibs (Squib light turns ON)
Deactivates generator
FADEC power removed
Closes:
FUEL LP valve
Hyd Fire SOV
Engine Bleed
Pack Flow Control
Im guessing the smoke started while the crew was flying the plane first before they started MEMORY items and ECAM actions. Then in theory when they hit the FIRE buttons the smoke dissipated somewhat as the bleed on the damaged engine was cut.
Silences Aural warning
Arms Squibs (Squib light turns ON)
Deactivates generator
FADEC power removed
Closes:
FUEL LP valve
Hyd Fire SOV
Engine Bleed
Pack Flow Control
Im guessing the smoke started while the crew was flying the plane first before they started MEMORY items and ECAM actions. Then in theory when they hit the FIRE buttons the smoke dissipated somewhat as the bleed on the damaged engine was cut.
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Not sure whats in your checklists but are you saying that had Sully worked for B6 instead of US AIR he would have been doing the waltz on the carpet after the water landing and such for turning on the APU(?) despite it not being in the checklists?
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saves a cycle on the APU too…so now you can bring an extra pair of socks and underwear because it’s cost neutral….jetfoward
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Kudos to the crew for handling ghe emergency and getting everyone on the ground and evacuated safely! My question is given the crew reported smoke in the cockpit then cabin would it have been prudent to cut the bleeds before the smoke started to prevent it from occurring in the first place? In other words engine damage/fire should have a memory item BLEEDS/PACKS OFF. My thinking on this was if we are having to contend with APUs dumping smelly cancer socks into the air system and we turn the packs/bleeds off right away why no do the same to lfor eng damage/fire? Even for perhaps engine surging.
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Kudos to the crew for handling ghe emergency and getting everyone on the ground and evacuated safely! My question is given the crew reported smoke in the cockpit then cabin would it have been prudent to cut the bleeds before the smoke started to prevent it from occurring in the first place? In other words engine damage/fire should have a memory item BLEEDS/PACKS OFF. My thinking on this was if we are having to contend with APUs dumping smelly cancer socks into the air system and we turn the packs/bleeds off right away why no do the same to lfor eng damage/fire? Even for perhaps engine surging.
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