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Old 07-07-2008, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob View Post

As I recall the Taiwanese tried to grab the Singapore guys after their accident in TPE years ago, and (correct me if I'm wrong Mark) didn't a Fed Ex crew get detained for landing after ALA tower reported the ceiling had gone below minimums (VV is governing there as much as visibility)?
It was something like that. They also tried to accuse a crew of breaking some runway or taxi lights. When that didn't work, they tried it on the next crew through!
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:00 PM
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The news is saying no fatalities among the crew - do you know for sure there has been a death? If so, I am very sorry to hear that. I wish we were getting better updates through the news services.
I think he may be speaking about the USA Jet accident where there was one confirmed death. The poster stated he had worked at both companies previously.
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:17 PM
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Correct -

Yes, I was referring to both incidents...

News to date - one fatality at the USA Jet crash in Saltillo, Mexico. Capt LM was killed, FO is in the hospital.

At the Kalitta incident in Bogata, no fatalities - one FE (initials JK) in surgury for spleen removal, one CA with a significantly injured back, and one seriously injured ride on mechanic with back injuries. The rest of the crew appears to be OK with assorted bumps, bangs and lacerations.

At last news, Connie et al were organizing Lears / whomever to get families down there.

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Old 07-07-2008, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by freightdawg View Post
Correct -

Yes, I was referring to both incidents...

News to date - one fatality at the USA Jet crash in Saltillo, Mexico. Capt LM was killed, FO is in the hospital.

At the Kalitta incident in Bogata, no fatalities - one FE (initials JK) in surgury for spleen removal, one CA with a significantly injured back, and one seriously injured ride on mechanic with back injuries. The rest of the crew appears to be OK with assorted bumps, bangs and lacerations.

At last news, Connie et al were organizing Lears / whomever to get families down there.

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Sorry about your friend with USA Jet. Sounds like the crew of the Kalitta airplane fared much better than they could have from the pictures and that is a blessing.

Sorry for the thread drift above. I read an erroneous report and made a comment, another poster joked at me about it and it went from there. No disrespect to either crews or airlines. I appologize if you were offended.
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:51 PM
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Before you think you have it made, AOPA has the story of the first pilot in the USA to do jail time for an accident here.

It seems that our country was just behind the times.


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Talk about insult after injury...survive an accident, and before anything even remotely resembling a real investigation is started get your tail thrown in jail! Just another bit of glamor flying into these banana republics (or vodka republics like Almaty), along with the e-ticket van rides, bugs that laugh at antibiotics and weak ATC to name a few.

As I recall the Taiwanese tried to grab the Singapore guys after their accident in TPE years ago, and (correct me if I'm wrong Mark) didn't a Fed Ex crew get detained for landing after ALA tower reported the ceiling had gone below minimums (VV is governing there as much as visibility)?

Being a Kalitta vet myself I add my best wishes to all involved.
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Old 07-07-2008, 07:03 PM
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At the Kalitta incident in Bogata, no fatalities - one FE (initials JK) in surgury for spleen removal, one CA with a significantly injured back, and one seriously injured ride on mechanic with back injuries. The rest of the crew appears to be OK with assorted bumps, bangs and lacerations.
Media reported to fatalities on the ground.
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Old 07-07-2008, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyjetprop View Post
Before you think you have it made, AOPA has the story of the first pilot in the USA to do jail time for an accident here.

It seems that our country was just behind the times.
You know - considering the gravity of this thread...and the gravity of the implications of pilots being jailed and detained overseas, and here, I would really like to suggest we make another thread (I would propose hanger talk) regarding these issues for discussion. I read the AOPA article too and was interested as well as my interest in the mid-air I stated above.

Both topics (the crashes) as well as the drift of legal issues, etc deserve their own threads.
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Originally Posted by stinsonjr View Post
Sorry about your friend with USA Jet. Sounds like the crew of the Kalitta airplane fared much better than they could have from the pictures and that is a blessing.

Sorry for the thread drift above. I read an erroneous report and made a comment, another poster joked at me about it and it went from there. No disrespect to either crews or airlines. I appologize if you were offended.
Definitely meant no disrespect. Just commenting on stinson's call to arms.
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Old 07-07-2008, 08:27 PM
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thanks for the update on the injuries with the Kalitta crew. I will keep checking back if you get any more news.
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Originally Posted by freightdawg View Post
Correct -

Yes, I was referring to both incidents...

News to date - one fatality at the USA Jet crash in Saltillo, Mexico. Capt LM was killed, FO is in the hospital.

At the Kalitta incident in Bogata, no fatalities - one FE (initials JK) in surgury for spleen removal, one CA with a significantly injured back, and one seriously injured ride on mechanic with back injuries. The rest of the crew appears to be OK with assorted bumps, bangs and lacerations.

At last news, Connie et al were organizing Lears / whomever to get families down there.

FD
Any initials on the FO from the Kaletta crash. I am currently out of the country and can't get a hold of my buddy over there.
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