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Old 06-10-2010, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by K4FE View Post
Maybe the rumor was twisted and CK is really buying the UPS -400s -

Maybe even the whole company.

Maybe the UPS airline is for sale, we wouldn't know ... that's for sure.
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Old 06-10-2010, 09:55 AM
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How many is JAL selling? I believe Kalitta has already bought 8 of them and the first one is being delivered this month.

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Old 06-10-2010, 10:22 AM
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According to Aviation Today, JAL is selling 30 ... FWIW


Acquisition of Ex-JAL B747-400s Fails to Aid Values

Paul Leighton/Editor, Aircraft Value News


The intended disposal of more than 30 B747-400s by Japan Airlines has already resulted in a significant fall in values and the acquisition of nine such aircraft by Transaero will do nothing to reverse the slide.

The values of the B747-400 have fallen by more than 20 percent over the course of the last few months as a direct result of the decision by JAL to divest itself of its fleet. With more than 30 B747-400s already in storage (of which only five can be attributed to JAL) and 16 being advertised for sale or lease, the additional 30 aircraft being released by JAL will increase the surplus to more than 60, representing nearly 15 percent of the worlds fleet of passenger -400s.

While Transaero intends to take nine, there remains a considerable excess and many -400 operators are seeking to further reduce rather than increase their fleets. The number of carriers capable of acquiring the -400s remains very limited and with the appetite from the freighter conversion market very weak, the potential for placement will remain limited.

The only opportunity for the -400 lies with a revival in the international market which could see operators scrambling for capacity and anxious to press those aircraft currently in storage into service.

Paul Leighton ([email protected]) is also founder and managing director of the Aircraft Value Analysis Company, a UK-based company that specializes in future value forecasting. AVAC was specifically formed in 1991 to provide independent advice regarding current and future aircraft values, and the factors that affect them, to the air transport community.
Aviation Today :: Paul Leighton Bio
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[B]Acquisition of Ex-JAL B747-400s Fails to Aid Values

Cactus Crew: Informative article, thanks for posting.
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8 of them are being contracted to fly from Tokyo to the US starting next week.
1 per month.
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Old 06-10-2010, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by UPS1856 View Post
8 of them are being contracted to fly from Tokyo to the US starting next week.
1 per month.
For whom? Are we talking freighters or pax birds? And who is getting 1 per month?
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Old 06-10-2010, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 1800 RVR View Post
For whom? Are we talking freighters or pax birds? And who is getting 1 per month?
They are "D" models.
They are being delivered to a US customer.

747-400D

The 747-400D (Domestic) is a high density seating model developed for short-haul domestic Japanese flights. The aircraft is capable of seating a maximum of 568 passengers in a 2-class configuration or 660 passengers in a single-class configuration. The -400D lacks the wing tip extensions and winglets included on other variants. The benefits of winglets would be minimal on short routes. The -400D may be converted to the long range version when needed. The 747-400D is also unusual in having more windows on both sides of the upper deck than the basic -400 series.
The 747-400 Domestic first flew on March 18, 1991 and entered service with Japan Airlines on October 22, 1991. The last was delivered to All Nippon Airways in December 1995.[
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heard UPS bought 'em.
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Old 06-10-2010, 03:44 PM
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heard UPS bought 'em.
Hope they didn't, only means less pilots on property!

In case you guys don't get it yet. Check out my formula:
Big Airplanes = Less Pilots
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Old 06-10-2010, 04:37 PM
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rumor here at Kalitta is Connie was outbid by someone else (National?)
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