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maxjet 07-24-2018 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by Geezer (Post 2641864)
How often do you get to talk to Mr. Kalitta? Care to let us uninformed know what your input was the last time you two conferred? Has Mr. Wallace been keen on your marketing strategies? Maybe Mr. Sanderlin has been seeking out your input? Perhaps you've been in a 10 AM meeting recently and can give us an idea of the performance goals for the upcoming month or quarter.

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As usual I cannot figure out what your point is. When did he state any of the things you write about? It is truly sad that you are so sad. If you cannot be happy in this environment that is bad. I don’t think you will ever see a better time in your career.

maxjet 07-24-2018 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2641500)
How is K4 retirement?

Not good at all but what does that matter? I save on my own and don’t want to be in a position where a company can steal my pension.

Geezer 07-24-2018 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by maxjet (Post 2641908)
As usual I cannot figure out what your point is. When did he state any of the things you write about? It is truly sad that you are so sad. If you cannot be happy in this environment that is bad. I don’t think you will ever see a better time in your career.

I'm a little slow. I admit it. I just came on APC to see if anyone actually knows why the darned Nazi's bombed Pearl harbor.

WhaleWrangler 07-24-2018 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by maxjet (Post 2641909)
Not good at all but what does that matter? I save on my own and don’t want to be in a position where a company can steal my pension.


Exactly. I max out my 401 by July and along with the extra $10K from Connie it's OK. The rest of the time I invest on my own behalf not worried that it will get taken away.

I have always been able to make ends meet pre contract I didn't spend my life living outside of my means and trying to beat "The Jones'", the pay increase was a nice extra, just means I have more money to do things I want and save for my retirement, which I will be damned if I am going to 65 anyway, on target for 60 maybe a little sooner, who knows.

WhaleWrangler 07-24-2018 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2641505)
You don't think there were promises made? Yea right....it went somthing like this. You give us the business we will give the pilots a smallish pay raise contract....after starving them for yrs....it will look like a gold mine! Why do you think K4 is getting all this increase in 767 DHL flying..these are not new city pairs you are flying to. Exp: ABX then Astar then Y5 now K4 going to MSP whoever signs the next lowball contract is next...Smart guy...


Why does eveyone think that K4's business plan is solely based around DHL?? Yes it's a nice chunk of change but not the whole picture. We have other long term contracts in Asia and now for THY. Throw in the military charters etc., we do just fine with or without DHL. We have even turned down contracts due to lack of pilots, not because they are leaving, because the school house can only supply X per month.

It's no suprise that DHL is handing some routes to K4, we have a contract and in their eyes stability. At-less / Southern et al without contracts and on going issues pose a thorn in the side of DHL. Now is K4 offering or being paid less per flight I am not privy to that but I suspect with the vast number of our aircraft paid for and a lower debt load than others because we don't have to support shareholders and loans K4 can offer better rates.

This was all to evident in '08 / '09 when the downturn happened. Yes we furloughed but in reality we shouldn't have, At-Less were offering 400's at 200 prices just to have cash flow and make payments, K4 didn't have to make a single loan payment and parking a few birds cost nadda to Connie.

nitefr8dog 07-25-2018 02:58 AM


Originally Posted by WhaleWrangler (Post 2641976)
Why does eveyone think that K4's business plan is solely based around DHL?? Yes it's a nice chunk of change but not the whole picture. We have other long term contracts in Asia and now for THY. Throw in the military charters etc., we do just fine with or without DHL. We have even turned down contracts due to lack of pilots, not because they are leaving, because the school house can only supply X per month.

It's no suprise that DHL is handing some routes to K4, we have a contract and in their eyes stability. At-less / Southern et al without contracts and on going issues pose a thorn in the side of DHL. Now is K4 offering or being paid less per flight I am not privy to that but I suspect with the vast number of our aircraft paid for and a lower debt load than others because we don't have to support shareholders and loans K4 can offer better rates.

This was all to evident in '08 / '09 when the downturn happened. Yes we furloughed but in reality we shouldn't have, At-Less were offering 400's at 200 prices just to have cash flow and make payments, K4 didn't have to make a single loan payment and parking a few birds cost nadda to Connie.

Who thinks that? Every ACMI carrier hauling DHL also has outside business...K4 did not dream up that brain child!

Geezer 07-25-2018 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by WhaleWrangler (Post 2641972)
Exactly. I max out my 401 by July and along with the extra $10K from Connie it's OK. The rest of the time I invest on my own behalf not worried that it will get taken away.

I have always been able to make ends meet pre contract I didn't spend my life living outside of my means and trying to beat "The Jones'", the pay increase was a nice extra, just means I have more money to do things I want and save for my retirement, which I will be damned if I am going to 65 anyway, on target for 60 maybe a little sooner, who knows.

Have you done the calculations to see how long your 401K will last after mandatory withdrawal's begin at age 70 1/2?

Geezer 07-25-2018 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by WhaleWrangler (Post 2641976)
Why does eveyone think that K4's business plan is solely based around DHL?? Yes it's a nice chunk of change but not the whole picture. We have other long term contracts in Asia and now for THY. Throw in the military charters etc., we do just fine with or without DHL. We have even turned down contracts due to lack of pilots, not because they are leaving, because the school house can only supply X per month.

It's no suprise that DHL is handing some routes to K4, we have a contract and in their eyes stability. At-less / Southern et al without contracts and on going issues pose a thorn in the side of DHL. Now is K4 offering or being paid less per flight I am not privy to that but I suspect with the vast number of our aircraft paid for and a lower debt load than others because we don't have to support shareholders and loans K4 can offer better rates.

This was all to evident in '08 / '09 when the downturn happened. Yes we furloughed but in reality we shouldn't have, At-Less were offering 400's at 200 prices just to have cash flow and make payments, K4 didn't have to make a single loan payment and parking a few birds cost nadda to Connie.

Hopefully, nobody knows your identity because those that got furloughed will now know that you were part of the "them" that was behind the '08/'09 furloughs. Did you have any input for the '10/'13 no equipment bid situation? Hopefully you didn't have any input into the '12/'13 curtailments and furloughs.

Geezer 07-25-2018 06:50 AM

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Geezer 07-25-2018 07:02 AM

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