TonyMontana

You contradict yourself-You're "waiting to hear from those who walked away with great success, and how they did it", but when you DO hear just that-you ridicule it, that somehow, we couldn't "hack it".

There Is treatment for that psychosis.


Truth is-IT'S NOT WORTH HACKING!

rickdb

Just curious, what do you do in the medical field that pays you that much? I mean you were a lowly paid pilot before. How did you get the capital to create such a lucrative business? Also, didnt you ever think about doing it on the side, and flying 121?

SkyHigh

Six years ago I was broke and laid off. After nearly 20 years of daily effort my profession left me and my family with $1300 a month of unemployment insurance and a two bedroom apartment. We were expecting our third child and did not have any health insurance anymore. After nearly two decades of sacrifice and disappointment we had little money to work with and little hope of finding another flying job.

The best thing that aviation gave me was that I never was able to become financially complacent. I was never able to live very well and always had to keep my mind working to find a way to keep afloat. When the end came I looked back over all the things I had done on the side to make money and realized that I did better during the times I was laid off from flying.

Making money means more that just a paycheck. Over the last six years I have been able to build a real estate portfoilo from my sweat and wits. Today it supports us to a level that I had dreamed of as a pilot at my goal airline. Had I been able to secure another flying job six years ago I most likely would be laid off again by now with even fewer options.

Years ago I was a FO at Horizon Air and my insurance agent confessed that he was a laid off UAL pilot. When I asked him why he never went back he laughed at me. Now I get the joke.

SKyHigh

SkyHigh

Guys like me were chased out of the main line forums and banished to our own corner. Why then are you flag wavers following us here?

Skyhigh

TonyMontana

M.D.

I was DEFINATELY a lowly paid pilot before. After landing back at base after 9/11, I was hospitalized with double pneumonia. I was married into a medical family at that time, and was amazed at how things were going-especially after I had had a front row seat in hell for the last 3 days.

I said then and there-THAT'S FOR ME!


As far as how to financially do it, I worked many different jobs while in school and took out a few loans. In agreeing to work for this hospital, they have agreed to repay them as part of my compensation pkg.

It's funny, in the entrance interview for med school, those guys were eating out of my hand when I was detailing the events that led to my being there.

And they couldn't believe pilots made so little money.

TonyMontana

My point is-don't EVER think your 4 year aviation degree is worthless. It is actually your ticket in. In to Med school, In to Law school, In to an officer slot in the military. Don't EVER sell yourself short, and don't EVER settle for mediocrity.

You and your family deserve better than that.

de727ups

"Guys like me were chased out of the main line forums and banished to our own corner. Why then are you flag wavers following us here?"

Oh, now that's rich. Banished it is? You can post anywhere ya want, big guy. If you're chased out it's cause people don't agree with you. You want your own little forum to preach without an opposing viewpoint? Not gonna happen at APC. I've always said you should try your luck at JC if you really believed in your stated goals. I'd pay money to watch that...

But don't plan on a free personal forum at APC to post your stuff without being refuted or without response. LOL....

Learflyer

Please. unless you or your wife homeschool your kids, they are at school 7 hours a day, while you're on APC, and after school are doing more activities than you and I ever have when we were young.

SkyHigh

I always thought that you and others who did not like crossing paths with people who share my viewpoint pushed to have this forum added so that you did not have to deal with us anymore. However you have followed us here.

Don't get me wrong I enjoy exchanging ideas with you. I just thought that you did not like me. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

I have been to JC and if I wanted to learn the latest online swear words or ways to insult others I would be there. I like the intelligent dialog that we have here much better.

Skyhigh

SkyHigh

I have a friend who after many years at what I would consider a dream job walked away to take a desk, 9 to 5 and certain retirement. Even I was shocked about that one. I mean this guy had it made from my perspective. When I asked him why he told me that he was a senior FO and since oil and the age 65 thing came along it seemed obvious that he would be stuck as an FO for another decade.

His kids were small and he did not want to miss their upbringing anymore. In addition the 65 to 80K he was making as an FO was easily replaced at his new government job plus he has a real retirement.

My take away is that you are not striving for 300k as a big time jet captain but 60 to 80K as a major airline FO. Odds are that anyone who gets hired at the majors will be stuck in the right seat for possibly an extended time. Therefore the real comparison is with the lifestyle risks and income that a FO gets and not at what a captain makes.

Skyhigh