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Old 09-14-2008 | 08:16 PM
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"I too hear of so many former pilots moving on to fantastic careers outside the cockpit - yet I'm hitting wall after wall."

I think there is a lot of embellishment and a lack of concrete examples in those who tout alternatives to the career. I, too, would like to see more people really break down how they did it, what they made the first year, and how life is now. It's easy to say they are hiring cops in Tacoma and they start at 60K. But that's just someone reading an ad in the paper. I want to hear from someone who actually did it...
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Old 09-15-2008 | 01:27 AM
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This is becoming more and more clear to me, at least in my case. Over and over, interview after interview, in the end I am seen as having no real transferable job skills.

.....It has proven to be extremely frustrating trying to get a job outside the cockpit. My degree is a BS in aviation management. At the time, I thought the management part would be enough of a backup. In my case at least, this is proving to not be true. I've almost resigned myself over to going back and getting a different degree.

Edit: Just saw the post above mine. USMC - this is what boggles me. I too hear of so many former pilots moving on to fantastic careers outside the cockpit - yet I'm hitting wall after wall. It's either due to 'lack of experience' (in jobs that would be pieces of cake!) or unrelated job skills/education. I think in the end it's my degree that has done me in. I should have pursued a 100% non aviation related degree.

It looks like I may medical out soon (won't go into it here - but so far the FAA is not giving good vibes...) so I'm going to have to get something going quickly!

I totally agree, except I was in Airport Management/Operations. Try landing a decent paying management position outside of aviation and HR will tell you that you have to start from the bottom like anyone else or that you are over qualified for the job or something to that effect.

If things don't work out w/my medical, I've decided to enter the Health Care field. I still may have to start at the bottom, but a least I'll have job stability and a pretty decent salary....enough to keep a roof over our heads, the lights on, the cars rolling and food on the table.



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Old 09-15-2008 | 06:32 AM
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Don't forget that you have your military experience as a back up. If you ever do end up on the street and need to find a job outside of flying make a resume that focuses on your role as a military leader and do not mention that you were a pilot.

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Old 09-15-2008 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
"I too hear of so many former pilots moving on to fantastic careers outside the cockpit - yet I'm hitting wall after wall."

I think there is a lot of embellishment and a lack of concrete examples in those who tout alternatives to the career. I, too, would like to see more people really break down how they did it, what they made the first year, and how life is now. It's easy to say they are hiring cops in Tacoma and they start at 60K. But that's just someone reading an ad in the paper. I want to hear from someone who actually did it...
It is not easy to start over for anyone. I was totally kicked to the curb by aviation. At 36 I was laid off and reduced to living in a two bedroom apartment on $1300 a month of unemployment insurance with a wife two kids and one on the way. No health insurance and no employment prospects. Today I have the lifestyle I dreamed of as a major airline pilot except that I do not have to leave home.

However I have told my story many times before on this forum. You want others to jump in but I am a rare and special person. Most ex-pilots prefer not to think about flying anymore. Like war scared veterans they keep their past aviation lives to themselves. Guys like myself and Tony Montana don't come along everyday but they are out there. I know of three ex-pilots who now own their own construction businesses and haven't touched a plane in years. I have a long time friend who left flying to become a cop and loves it.

They are out there and you have already been offered a few stories but you will not find many who venture onto a forum like this. I personally know more ex-pilots who have made a successful transition out of aviation than those who have made it to a good flying job. Right now somewhere in America there is an EX-ATA guy who has his back to the wall and is facing the reality that he must seek work outside of aviation. It stinks but once the new path is choosen it can lead to a better life.

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Old 09-15-2008 | 06:54 AM
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Last weekend on the news I saw a story that claimed that exposure in a four hour flight in a jetliner is equivalent to the same amount of radiation as a chest x-ray. Add that up over a 30 year career.

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Old 09-15-2008 | 05:26 PM
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Last weekend on the news I saw a story that claimed that exposure in a four hour flight in a jetliner is equivalent to the same amount of radiation as a chest x-ray. Add that up over a 30 year career.

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And too much Alar (the psticide they spray on apple groves) will give you cancer..................if you eat a bushel a day for 10 years!
America's scare tactics.

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Old 09-15-2008 | 07:45 PM
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And too much Alar (the psticide they spray on apple groves) will give you cancer..................if you eat a bushel a day for 10 years!
America's scare tactics.

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A chest X-ray a day is a big deal. And, lets not forget that every year we are loosing more of the upper atmosphere. Soon a decade of exposure could be a deadly.

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Old 09-15-2008 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
A chest X-ray a day is a big deal. And, lets not forget that every year we are loosing more of the upper atmosphere. Soon a decade of exposure could be a deadly.

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maybe then airline pay would go up
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Old 09-15-2008 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
A chest X-ray a day is a big deal. And, lets not forget that every year we are loosing more of the upper atmosphere. Soon a decade of exposure could be a deadly.

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Stay inside your house then Sky. As for me - I'm going out to fight tomorrow and I'm looking forward to it! It is all about attitude.

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Old 09-15-2008 | 08:23 PM
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Hey Sky, flying that little 150 of yours is more likely to lead to death than radiation from being an airline pilot. Especially since I flew it upside down under the Vantage bridge....
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