Leave this to be a Cop?
09-24-2009, 05:13 PM
#21
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 24
Hey huntr
I had a student that was an engineer who had been a cop in manhattan Ks. a noted college town and he told me he almost had to shot some guy one night after responding to a "disturbing the public" call. Needless to say, it scared the s--t out of him. he will never go back to it. also, my dad was a B747-200 capt for 16 years. a couple of his F/O's were ex-cops and they told him it is a very thankless job.
Also, ask yourself this: Can I live with myself if I have to shot some jerk even if it is in self-defense? you said 2 years on the street. I interpret that as "if you survive that 2 years".
One of the things that I was told is that the Grass is not necessarily greener on the other side of the fence.
Do some serious soul searching on this one.
TDX
I had a student that was an engineer who had been a cop in manhattan Ks. a noted college town and he told me he almost had to shot some guy one night after responding to a "disturbing the public" call. Needless to say, it scared the s--t out of him. he will never go back to it. also, my dad was a B747-200 capt for 16 years. a couple of his F/O's were ex-cops and they told him it is a very thankless job.
Also, ask yourself this: Can I live with myself if I have to shot some jerk even if it is in self-defense? you said 2 years on the street. I interpret that as "if you survive that 2 years".
One of the things that I was told is that the Grass is not necessarily greener on the other side of the fence.
Do some serious soul searching on this one.
TDX
09-25-2009, 06:03 AM
#23
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Joined APC: May 2006
Position: Jet Pilot
Posts: 797
Originally Posted by Rudabega
Do you really want to deal with crackheads all day long? I'm willing to bet you got into aviation by only looking at the positive side. Don't forget to take a long look at the negative side. Many people do not like the police, you will be called all kinds of names. People view police as more of a revenue generator now than a help to society, speed camera anyone? Your social interactions will be with people who would perfer you dead outnumbering the people that will thank you. It will get to you over time.
09-25-2009, 07:08 AM
#24
Self Employed.
Joined APC: May 2005
Position: Corporate Pilot
Posts: 7,119
Firefighter
Originally Posted by Lab Rat
Many people do not like the police, that is, until they need them.
I have a pilot friend who became a county cop ten years ago and loves it. The benefits are so good that he can retire after 20 years when he is 53 if he wants to. He works 4 12 hour shifts and is then off of three or four days. He has his own patrol car that he takes home. His department bought him a fully automatic AR15 and he gets paid to go shooting. In his garage he has a nice collection of confiscated items that he gets to play with. In the morning he will sign in over the radio and then sit there in his kitchen sipping coffee until a call comes in. Often it can take half the day before he is needed. Not a bad deal at all.
In my home town cops can do whatever they want. They drive drunk, get into public fights, drive recklessly, and stalk young women while on the clock and no one seems to care. It is like a private country club.
Skyhigh
09-25-2009, 09:35 AM
#25
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Joined APC: Jul 2009
Posts: 17
Originally Posted by SkyHigh
Some like or dislike cops however everyone likes a firefighter.
In his garage he has a nice collection of confiscated items that he gets to play with. In the morning he will sign in over the radio and then sit there in his kitchen sipping coffee until a call comes in. Often it can take half the day before he is needed. Not a bad deal at all.
In my home town cops can do whatever they want. They drive drunk, get into public fights, drive recklessly, and stalk young women while on the clock and no one seems to care. It is like a private country club.
Skyhigh
In his garage he has a nice collection of confiscated items that he gets to play with. In the morning he will sign in over the radio and then sit there in his kitchen sipping coffee until a call comes in. Often it can take half the day before he is needed. Not a bad deal at all.
In my home town cops can do whatever they want. They drive drunk, get into public fights, drive recklessly, and stalk young women while on the clock and no one seems to care. It is like a private country club.
Skyhigh
I'm sorry to hear you have such unprofessional officers where you live. None of that would be tolerated at my dept and all of the mentioned behavior would rightly result in termination. I have worked in a low paid dept before and although there were many very dedicated officers you tend to get what you pay for.
09-25-2009, 03:58 PM
#26
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Joined APC: May 2005
Position: Corporate Pilot
Posts: 7,119
Drug test
Originally Posted by flynpig
I'm sorry to hear you have such unprofessional officers where you live. None of that would be tolerated at my dept and all of the mentioned behavior would rightly result in termination. I have worked in a low paid dept before and although there were many very dedicated officers you tend to get what you pay for.
Skyhigh
09-26-2009, 07:54 AM
#27
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Joined APC: May 2006
Position: Jet Pilot
Posts: 797
I just want to know one thing with regards to a career in law enforcement:
How do you get to be the guy that operates the water turret from the armored car when it comes to crowd control?
That's the job I want!!
How do you get to be the guy that operates the water turret from the armored car when it comes to crowd control?
That's the job I want!!
09-26-2009, 08:20 AM
#28
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: B767
Posts: 1,899
Originally Posted by SkyHigh
At lunch today I was reminded that our local police are not even drug tested. Cops are exposed to drugs and prostitutes all day long it seems highly irresponsible to not randomly test an officer.
Skyhigh
Skyhigh
09-26-2009, 11:11 AM
#29
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 690
I also am a 27YOA first officer for a "preferred" regional. I was a Reserve 'volunteer' Deputy and Corrections Officer in college and miss it a lot. So I did it for free! and i want to go back.
And I too am looking into law enforcement, i.e. State Patrol. The lifestyle of a first officer is horrible. Much rather sit in a patrol car and be bored and get paid well and do something good for society; i.e. arrest DUI's and dope dealers. I have no challenge now. My only challenge is to try to touch down in the TDLZ 'softly' and keep my captain awake.
And I too am looking into law enforcement, i.e. State Patrol. The lifestyle of a first officer is horrible. Much rather sit in a patrol car and be bored and get paid well and do something good for society; i.e. arrest DUI's and dope dealers. I have no challenge now. My only challenge is to try to touch down in the TDLZ 'softly' and keep my captain awake.
09-27-2009, 09:05 AM
#30
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 116
Be very, VERY careful when it comes to choosing a department. "Police" administrators (I quoted police, because most of them aren't cops' cops) can ruin any semblance of a satisfying job. In fact, if they're jealous of your credentials, they can also torpedo your career. True in ANY job, but much less so in the airlines. I'm certainly not advocating how the airlines operate, but it can be a shock to someone who is used to the seniority system.
Also, be aware that LE can be incredibly frustrating. If you're in it to "do good for society," I can almost assure that you'll be out within seven years. You're only as useful as your local prosecutors. If you like the JOB, you'll love it.
Also, be aware that LE can be incredibly frustrating. If you're in it to "do good for society," I can almost assure that you'll be out within seven years. You're only as useful as your local prosecutors. If you like the JOB, you'll love it.
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