Master's in Education
06-23-2010, 05:37 PM
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Hi!
Your best bet is to find someplace that will hire you without certification (re: Somewhere crappy).
If you want to work in a "normal" place you will need to be a certified teacher. With a 4-year degree, it would probably only take you about 2 years of part-time classes (once you have been accepted into a School of Education, which is often not so easy). After your classes are done, you PFT by teaching for one semester (minimum) while paying the University 100% tuition, in return for allowing you to fill a seat (and it is like FO...you work full-time under the supervsion of a Certied Teacher-Trainer...like IOE). Then you have your certificate.
If you want to teach somewhere like where I am, there are very few jobs, unless you try for something like Special Education, which you won't be certified in, and it's not easy. Otherwise, you will get a job teaching in a very small backwater, or at a private school, probably for about $20K per year (sound familiar?).
If you get a Masters BEFORE you get a teaching job, it will make it tougher, as the school will have to pay you more: Many would rather get a newer, less-qualified teacher as they can pay them less.
If you REALLY want to teach, find somewhere that has a big shortage, and will take you without your license.
cliff
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PS-Max pay in GRB for teachers was about $65K, after about 30 years and a PhD equivalent in graduate courses.
Your best bet is to find someplace that will hire you without certification (re: Somewhere crappy).
If you want to work in a "normal" place you will need to be a certified teacher. With a 4-year degree, it would probably only take you about 2 years of part-time classes (once you have been accepted into a School of Education, which is often not so easy). After your classes are done, you PFT by teaching for one semester (minimum) while paying the University 100% tuition, in return for allowing you to fill a seat (and it is like FO...you work full-time under the supervsion of a Certied Teacher-Trainer...like IOE). Then you have your certificate.
If you want to teach somewhere like where I am, there are very few jobs, unless you try for something like Special Education, which you won't be certified in, and it's not easy. Otherwise, you will get a job teaching in a very small backwater, or at a private school, probably for about $20K per year (sound familiar?).
If you get a Masters BEFORE you get a teaching job, it will make it tougher, as the school will have to pay you more: Many would rather get a newer, less-qualified teacher as they can pay them less.
If you REALLY want to teach, find somewhere that has a big shortage, and will take you without your license.
cliff
LFW
PS-Max pay in GRB for teachers was about $65K, after about 30 years and a PhD equivalent in graduate courses.
06-24-2010, 02:31 PM
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Hi!
U don't need the Bachelers in Ed, just the teaching certification (I had a bach in History, then added the Teaching Cert). Masters in Ed COULD help, depending on your situation, and you will get more pay with a masters (but could have the initital hiring problem).
cliff
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U don't need the Bachelers in Ed, just the teaching certification (I had a bach in History, then added the Teaching Cert). Masters in Ed COULD help, depending on your situation, and you will get more pay with a masters (but could have the initital hiring problem).
cliff
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06-25-2010, 04:14 AM
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Most states have an alternate method of getting a teaching license.
I just recently completed such a program in Virginia.
Search for "Career Switcher".
The program was 1 semester long and intended for people who still work full time. It was mostly on-line during the week with an all day teleconferenced Saturday session once a month at the community colleges scattered across the state.
It was pretty intense, involving a lot of writing.(I combined all my papers into one file and it was about 220 pages worth.)
Prerequisites for the course are a bachelors degree, 5 years professional work experience, passing scores on the VCLA and 1 of the Praxis II tests.
(professional experience can be anything, one guy was a waiter/bartender)
My degree is in electronics engineering technology and I am now licensed to teach Math. I am just now applying to schools, So time will tell if I'm "competitive".
I just recently completed such a program in Virginia.
Search for "Career Switcher".
The program was 1 semester long and intended for people who still work full time. It was mostly on-line during the week with an all day teleconferenced Saturday session once a month at the community colleges scattered across the state.
It was pretty intense, involving a lot of writing.(I combined all my papers into one file and it was about 220 pages worth.)
Prerequisites for the course are a bachelors degree, 5 years professional work experience, passing scores on the VCLA and 1 of the Praxis II tests.
(professional experience can be anything, one guy was a waiter/bartender)
My degree is in electronics engineering technology and I am now licensed to teach Math. I am just now applying to schools, So time will tell if I'm "competitive".
06-25-2010, 06:13 AM
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Hi!
They type of program that jcaplins did is EXACTLY up your alley! I wish my state had had something like that (when I first got there, they required TEACHING CERTIFICATION just to substitute teach!).
If you are now certified in Math, it should be a breeze getting a job. Is the certification able to be used outside VA? That would be fantastic!
When I was looking the Southwest was the most desperate. DFW had about 1/2 of the K-12 teachers non-certified. LAS needed to hire about 5,000+ more teachers, and they had 5 days left before school started....an HR NIGHTMARE!
cliff
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They type of program that jcaplins did is EXACTLY up your alley! I wish my state had had something like that (when I first got there, they required TEACHING CERTIFICATION just to substitute teach!).
If you are now certified in Math, it should be a breeze getting a job. Is the certification able to be used outside VA? That would be fantastic!
When I was looking the Southwest was the most desperate. DFW had about 1/2 of the K-12 teachers non-certified. LAS needed to hire about 5,000+ more teachers, and they had 5 days left before school started....an HR NIGHTMARE!
cliff
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06-25-2010, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
..... Is the certification able to be used outside VA? That would be fantastic!
Yes and No. As far as I know you have to apply for a license in the state that you are going to be teaching in. Even if you get a degree in education, you still need to apply for a license. It's just that an education degree pretty much guarantees they give you one.
With the alternate route to a license there is no 1 semester of "student teaching". Because of that, you first teaching job will satisfy the student teaching requirement, so you are essentially on a 1 year probation. After that you trade in your 1 year license and get a standard full fledged teaching license (5 year renewable in VA).
(this next part is just me speculating)
Most states have a reciprocity agreement (formal/informal, idk). So, the state's department of education should grant you a license if you show you have one from another state (i hope).
Jeff
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