Originally Posted by EMBskillz (Post 2376223)

Actually that's incorrect, bruddah.
The F16 guys may be AAholes and therefore the person next to them may ignore them or dismiss anything they have to say because they don't like them. This is the the essence of being a good crewmember. Compatibility. Anyone can do this job. Its tolerating the dope next to you that seperates worst from the best of the best. If SE airliners existed then, absolutely, I would prefer SE pilots from F16's and C208's, respectively. I just don't prefer either of you because the job requires 2 people and neither of you are used to working with co-pilots in the same airframe. Ask any SWA pilot based in PHX, who isn't prior SE fighter.

Originally Posted by Broncofan (Post 2376101)

Yes flying a fighter means more than a caravan I think everyone SHOULD be able to agree on that. However I think you are putting yourself on a pedestal a bit. Talking with training center instructors I ask them is there a common denominator of people that need more training? 99% of the time they will say single pilot fighter guys. They don't come in with the necessary CRM skills and try to fly the plane like a fighter. Now could I take my 121 skills and think I could fly a fighter well, no but my point is I would say your more "highly trainable" than anyone else.

Originally Posted by Mover (Post 2376666)

Having done both, I disagree. It's not a pedestal, it's fact. There's a reason the flight time is more desirable. I seriously doubt your 99% stats. In fact, I've seen lots of flow-through pilots struggle. And have heard the same from CAs and Check Airmen. What are the actual numbers?

I'm not saying this job is a cakewalk or civ-only pilots are bad, but it's not even close to leading multiple aircraft into a high threat environment while employing multiple types of weapons. And it's 100% PIC. No pilot monitoring. No magenta lines.

CRM is taught within the flight. It's not a huge leap to go from being a good wingman to being a good FO.

Originally Posted by Bluesky1 (Post 2376783)

Originally Posted by Mover (Post 2374483)

Fighter guys have millions spent on their training, have significant experience working in high density airports, leading 4-12 other aircraft, and max performing their aircraft. Every hour is spent aviating, navigating, and communicating. No SIC. No pilot monitoring. No droning around flying the magenta line. Flying a hundred knots faster (or more) than the 737.