Pilotless planes could save airlines billions
08-11-2017, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
Competing airlines that still have two pilots up front will make sure that customers know.
No airline CEO will spend a fortune and risk a marketing fiasco by "roboticizing" his fleet, unless all airlines are doing it.
No airline CEO will spend a fortune and risk a marketing fiasco by "roboticizing" his fleet, unless all airlines are doing it.
Communication with ATC, VORs, way points, airways, SIDs, STARs, ILS/RNAV/Visual approaches, etc are eliminated, everything will be doppler lidar with synthetic vision. This completely eliminates the need for a pilot to have any experience before being hired at an airline.
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08-11-2017, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mover
DP routes are standard in Latin Terrain and lots of Mexico. It's to avoid hitting a mountain when you descend due to a depressurization.
You'd have to ask the Airbus folks what it does when it descends in an area that doesn't require a DP. My guess it'd just do the emergency descent for you to 10,000.
Software wise, it could be programmed to select the nearest suitable alternate (using a database with runway length, approaches, etc) and fly to that point and autoland. It's just coding. The framework is all there.
You'd have to ask the Airbus folks what it does when it descends in an area that doesn't require a DP. My guess it'd just do the emergency descent for you to 10,000.
Software wise, it could be programmed to select the nearest suitable alternate (using a database with runway length, approaches, etc) and fly to that point and autoland. It's just coding. The framework is all there.
08-12-2017, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
This completely eliminates the need for a pilot to have any experience before being hired at an airline.
If that's the case then maybe the airline can just have a lottery every flight to see which two pax get to be the pilots for that leg.
08-12-2017, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
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08-12-2017, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cardiomd
LIDAR probably not even needed -- WAAS GPS and synthetic vision provides enough for safe aircraft operation. I've (nearly, down to around 40 feet) landed my 182 with synthetic vision and a safety pilot for kicks, and I'd do it single pilot in an emergency without a doubt.
08-12-2017, 08:50 PM
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The solo PF will have to pass an alertness test every few minutes, or get a shock from his kazoo electrode. Two successive failures would trigger the PNFs kazoo electrode, summoning him to the cockpit. If either pilot's implanted brain sensor picks up "negative waves", the emergency ground nerd will be alerted by a shock from his kazoo electrode. 
08-13-2017, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
The solo PF will have to pass an alertness test every few minutes, or get a shock from his kazoo electrode. Two successive failures would trigger the PNFs kazoo electrode, summoning him to the cockpit. If either pilot's implanted brain sensor picks up "negative waves", the emergency ground nerd will be alerted by a shock from his kazoo electrode.
08-13-2017, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
The solo PF will have to pass an alertness test every few minutes, or get a shock from his kazoo electrode. Two successive failures would trigger the PNFs kazoo electrode, summoning him to the cockpit. If either pilot's implanted brain sensor picks up "negative waves", the emergency ground nerd will be alerted by a shock from his kazoo electrode.
08-16-2017, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
No, you will need Doppler Shift LIDAR, as ground/satellite based systems are just not reliable enough. Furthermore, Cat III equipment is too expensive to maintain, whereas LIDAR is only a few hundred bucks per airplane.
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