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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 2428632)
Cool. Then some Democratic presidential candidate can claim, "We're gonna put those gas and oil rig workers out of work!" :rolleyes: and then lose the election to Eric Trump.
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
(Post 2428100)
There is probably a reason no one wants to have kids with him.
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Originally Posted by LNL76
(Post 2428151)
My kids are adults. Were they ever selfish bleeps, sure, still are sometimes. So are you, I'm sure!
Either way, a human wins over an animal every damn time. Btw, would you want your wife, parents, siblings or friends killed to spare an animal? If not, you're a hypocrite of the highest order. To the second question, I love my family, friends, and my own animals over those who are not part of my family. Therefore, of course I would prefer my loved ones rescued over those I do not know - to include animals I don't know. To ask you a similar question, would you not prefer YOUR loved ones to be rescued over unknown strangers? Of course you would. Hypocritical much yourself? So where were you guys. Oh yea... Climate change, Tesslas, F-250's, Republicans, Democrats, and a hurricane. Carry on. ;) |
Originally Posted by Lemons
(Post 2428542)
The 97% claim isn't true and has been debunked time and time again.
http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/05/26/wsj-the-myth-of-the-climate-change-97-what-is-the-origin-of-the-false-belief-that-almost-all-scientists-agree-about-global-warming/ As for the rest of your scaremongering, the us is now oil independent and we produce enough of our own oil that we for the first time are exporting it to other countries. https://www.forbes.com/sites/uhenergy/2016/12/14/fact-checking-the-97-consensus-on-anthropogenic-climate-change/?c=0&s=trending#8da560713657 |
Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 2428852)
Some would say that's not the job of government, that we should leave it to market forces to sort out. To that I would say, if it had not been for the United States government, if we'd relied on private industry to take us into space, we still would be looking up at the moon and wondering when, if ever, we'd visit it.
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Originally Posted by Lemons
(Post 2428623)
Those sources are not viable today.
And if little old Denmark, with only 5.5 million people, can find the resources to make it a viable source of energy don't try and convince me that the richest country in the world does not have the ability to make it viable. |
Originally Posted by NEDude
(Post 2429089)
Denmark gets over 40% of its power from wind, and has on multiple occasions been able to meet or exceed its daily power needs purely from wind. Not bad for a power source that is "not viable".
And if little old Denmark, with only 5.5 million people, can find the resources to make it a viable source of energy don't try and convince me that the richest country in the world does not have the ability to make it viable. |
Originally Posted by qball
(Post 2429097)
Wind energy might be viable but it has an enormous footprint for the amount of energy it generates. They have been spreading like a cancer across this country and of course are often put in places where the land is not tillable. They kill untold numbers of birds and bats and are just plain eyesores in some of the last wild places left.
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Originally Posted by qball
(Post 2429097)
They kill untold numbers of birds and bats and are just plain eyesores in some of the last wild places left.
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 2428845)
....From Columbus's expedition of 1492 (which was derided and rejected by his native Portugal as an impossible dream)......
This. I'll make a not very brave prediction here--petroleum won't be replaced in transportation in this century. Oil has too much of a lead in energy density over any foreseeable electrical source. It's something like 20 times more energy-dense than any electrical power source. The energy density of jet fuel is 12,000 Wh/kg versus the best current rechargeable battery is about 250 Wh/kg. It will take a major breakthrough or nuclear power to replace oil. GF But air travel? You need energy density, and that seems unlikely to jump 400 orders of magnitude. Here's an interesting article on the false eco-economy of windmills. It cites a lot of numbers that I have not personally researched to verify, but a quick perusal (with an engineering background) says "plausible and in the ballpark." I believe the UK "Spectator" is a reputable magazine similar to Esquire. https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/...global-energy/ 70 years ago, almost no homes had air conditioners, yet almost every home had a solar-powered clothes dryer, and a carbon-free washing machine. It was a hand-cranked wash tub, and a clothes line. I wonder how many climate-warrior homemakers would give up their front-loaders and "spring-fresh" fabric softeners to do things the old-fashioned way. |
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