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Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 2422417)
You act like I'm making up long wave patterns. It's not a new thing. It's what drives weather. I'm not talking about stationary fronts because that's not what we are talking about. And yes, I understand weather not as good as most of the scientists but I understand better than every single non meteorologist pilot. I have degrees in it. It is a complex field of study. When a doctor or an engineer or a pharmacist or a meteorologist says "this is how this works," is your first response, "quit being so arrogant with your knowledge and maybe I'll believe you?" I'm not going to go through fluid Dynamics here so that you can understand. Learning is your responsibility. I've read studies published at multiple universities that indicate quasi-stationary long wave patterns are a direct result of AGW. They have been occurring with greater frequency at a statistically significantly rate and proportional to AGW.
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
(Post 2422284)
People arguing against climate change must REALLY REALLY not like clean air and water.
False dichotomy: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white |
It's a fact that that the atmospheric particulate count has risen tremendously beyond millions of years of historical norms since the industrial revolution.
Why is this so hard to understand? And why aren't people willing to even attempt to believe that this could be the leading contributor to the other scientifically proven fact that the earth is warming at a higher rate than any previous ice age cycle. And why are these people always republicans who lash out like little babies and call people snowflakes? Weird childish behavior |
Much like everything else these days, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle, but everyone is too busy being outraged to consider another perspective.
The climate changes, always has. What is unclear is how much human activity is contributing to the pace and whether changing human behavior can have any meaningful effect to arrest it. (Versus say, a Krakatoa-like natural event) Liberals tend to think they can (and need to) save the planet, conservatives tend to think the planet will save itself. At least until the sun scorches us in 80 billion years. Whatever your opinion, buy flood insurance. Hope Houston has a speedy recovery. Resume "I know you are, but what am I" if you must. |
Originally Posted by deadseal
(Post 2422732)
It's a fact that that the atmospheric particulate count has risen tremendously beyond millions of years of historical norms since the industrial revolution.
Why is this so hard to understand? And why aren't people willing to even attempt to believe that this could be the leading contributor to the other scientifically proven fact that the earth is warming at a higher rate than any previous ice age cycle. |
Originally Posted by deadseal
(Post 2422732)
It's a fact that that the atmospheric particulate count has risen tremendously beyond millions of years of historical norms since the industrial revolution.
Why is this so hard to understand? And why aren't people willing to even attempt to believe that this could be the leading contributor to the other scientifically proven fact that the earth is warming at a higher rate than any previous ice age cycle. And why are these people always republicans who lash out like little babies and call people snowflakes? Weird childish behavior |
Originally Posted by Lemons
(Post 2421984)
Yeah especially when their budget is twice the size it needs to be it has to waste money on things it doesn't need.
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
(Post 2422284)
People arguing against climate change must REALLY REALLY not like clean air and water. I mean worst case scenario if all the scientists are wrong and you spent all that money investing in cleaner energy, you will be left with cleaner air and water. I mean you can argue all you want about whether or not climate change is man made or not, but what you can't argue is that man has severely effed up this planet in the last hundred years. I mean we have prescription drugs in WILD salmon. It's only going to get worse.
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Originally Posted by deadseal
(Post 2422732)
It's a fact that that the atmospheric particulate count has risen tremendously beyond millions of years of historical norms since the industrial revolution.
Why is this so hard to understand? And why aren't people willing to even attempt to believe that this could be the leading contributor to the other scientifically proven fact that the earth is warming at a higher rate than any previous ice age cycle. And why are these people always republicans who lash out like little babies and call people snowflakes? Weird childish behavior |
Originally Posted by Packrat
(Post 2423042)
I guess if it benefits someone else, its just waste.
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