U.S. Air Force to recall 1,000 retired pilots
#21
Where did you get that info? I've been instructing in a AETC for a decade and haven't seen any grads assigned drones (RPA's) for over 5 years.
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#22
The executive order raised the cap from 25 to 1,000. Whether or not the pentagon excerisis that right is still up in the air.
I can tell you that they're going to have some pretty disgruntled officers if they do this. Personally, if I'm recalled, I will min run it for three years. I'll put in a 4 hour day, with a 2 hour gym break during that 4 hour day.
They need a bigger carrot, not a bigger stick. Our armed forces work well because they are all volunteer. This changes that, and will backfire.
I can tell you that they're going to have some pretty disgruntled officers if they do this. Personally, if I'm recalled, I will min run it for three years. I'll put in a 4 hour day, with a 2 hour gym break during that 4 hour day.
They need a bigger carrot, not a bigger stick. Our armed forces work well because they are all volunteer. This changes that, and will backfire.
#23
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The executive order raised the cap from 25 to 1,000. Whether or not the pentagon excerisis that right is still up in the air.
I can tell you that they're going to have some pretty disgruntled officers if they do this. Personally, if I'm recalled, I will min run it for three years. I'll put in a 4 hour day, with a 2 hour gym break during that 4 hour day.
They need a bigger carrot, not a bigger stick. Our armed forces work well because they are all volunteer. This changes that, and will backfire.
I can tell you that they're going to have some pretty disgruntled officers if they do this. Personally, if I'm recalled, I will min run it for three years. I'll put in a 4 hour day, with a 2 hour gym break during that 4 hour day.
They need a bigger carrot, not a bigger stick. Our armed forces work well because they are all volunteer. This changes that, and will backfire.
#24
You're right. I'd actually consider volunteering, if they promoted me right now to O5 and provided a $100k per year bonus. And I'd even fly a desk and be productive (unlike my comments above, if they don't offer a bonus & promotion).
#26
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The executive order raised the cap from 25 to 1,000. Whether or not the pentagon excerisis that right is still up in the air.
I can tell you that they're going to have some pretty disgruntled officers if they do this. Personally, if I'm recalled, I will min run it for three years. I'll put in a 4 hour day, with a 2 hour gym break during that 4 hour day.
They need a bigger carrot, not a bigger stick. Our armed forces work well because they are all volunteer. This changes that, and will backfire.
I can tell you that they're going to have some pretty disgruntled officers if they do this. Personally, if I'm recalled, I will min run it for three years. I'll put in a 4 hour day, with a 2 hour gym break during that 4 hour day.
They need a bigger carrot, not a bigger stick. Our armed forces work well because they are all volunteer. This changes that, and will backfire.
Not flaming - honest question. Didn't you volunteer to be in this recallable status?
I was enlisted so maybe it's different, but I knew I would have 3 years IRR after my active service. Not saying I would have been happy to be recalled, but I did sign my name to the possibility.
#27
Not flaming - honest question. Didn't you volunteer to be in this recallable status?
I was enlisted so it's possibly different, but I knew I would have 3 years IRR after my active service. Not saying I would have been happy to be recalled, but I did sign my name to the possibility.
I was enlisted so it's possibly different, but I knew I would have 3 years IRR after my active service. Not saying I would have been happy to be recalled, but I did sign my name to the possibility.
EVERYBODY is on the hook for no less than eight years when they INITIALLY join the service in ANY capacity. Those who leave AD or even the reserves inside of eight years automatically go to the IRR and stay there until at least the eight year mark. They are subject to recall, it's happened but it's very rare.
If you retire it's actually called "retainer pay", and it's like being in the IRR... they can, and rarely do, recall people involuntarily. Once you get to a certain age, you actually become retired.
#28
The Air Force has a retention problem, they can fix it in better ways than this. How about using the bonus to $75k a year, that'd probably solve the problem. $100k for sure would. Additionally, improvements in queep work, non flying jobs, additional duties need to be made. The AF is competing with airlines for retention (not recruitment by the way, I assure you there is no shortage of young Lt’s wanting to be AF pilots). It’s a pilots market now, so they have to match airline potential. Just like they have to entice Doctors and Dentists. Their other option is to have a twenty year commitment after wings, but then they would have a recruitment problem...
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#29
Not flaming - honest question. Didn't you volunteer to be in this recallable status?
I was enlisted so maybe it's different, but I knew I would have 3 years IRR after my active service. Not saying I would have been happy to be recalled, but I did sign my name to the possibility.
I was enlisted so maybe it's different, but I knew I would have 3 years IRR after my active service. Not saying I would have been happy to be recalled, but I did sign my name to the possibility.
It's not unreasonable to be peeved if the USAF is abusing this provision to paper over their abysmal force management and cultural issues.
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