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sherpster 01-27-2018 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Mover (Post 2512765)
You obviously haven't read our contract yet.

So what if ual has some goodies in their contract. AA is hiring over 900 pilots this year and probably 900+ for years to come. They have a plan for you the moment you get called for an interview. They have a bettter product. They have better policies.

My UAL friends still dont know if there will be new hire classes after March. The whole operation seems like a mess. I dont see UAL being around long term.

Mover 01-27-2018 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by sherpster (Post 2512873)
So what if ual has some goodies in their contract. AA is hiring over 900 pilots this year and probably 900+ for years to come. They have a plan for you the moment you get called for an interview. They have a bettter product. They have better policies.

My UAL friends still dont know if there will be new hire classes after March. The whole operation seems like a mess. I dont see UAL being around long term.

So what? Are you serious? You don't think having strong contract language with good QOL is important?

sherpster 01-27-2018 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Mover (Post 2512874)
So what? Are you serious? You don't think having strong contract language with good QOL is important?

sorry, i thought you were a ual guy ripping on the aa contract. Of course I think it is important.

I am unsubscribing from this post now. Thanks to everyone for the information.

MasterOfPuppets 01-27-2018 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2512780)
Well, UA management just showed their savvy by dragging down the entire industry this week. If someday there are only 2 legacy airlines, it sure would be nice to be employed by one of the survivors.

AA made more revenue in the 4th quarter than UA and DL yet had the lowest profit and margin.......who will survive?

MasterOfPuppets 01-27-2018 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by sherpster (Post 2512589)
I just left UAL training for AA and I am really glad I did. AA is a top notch operation.

You didn't leave UA training for AA you left the pool thats kind of a big difference.

I love UA, I have nothing but great things to say and am encouraged our new management is headed in the correct direction. However if AA had offered me a class first I would be at AA, and I'm sure I would love it there. You made a good choice go to the airline that gives you the first class date. I don't know why you constantly have to bag on UA, sorry they made you sim for a few months, get over it :rolleyes:.

full of luv 01-27-2018 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by sherpster (Post 2512873)
My UAL friends still dont know if there will be new hire classes after March. The whole operation seems like a mess. I dont see UAL being around long term.

They’ve been saying that since late 2000.

If I had a $ for every time I’ve read an article or post predicting UALs demise I’d at least have enough for a good steak dinner!

MasterOfPuppets 01-27-2018 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by sherpster (Post 2512873)

My UAL friends still dont know if there will be new hire classes after March. The whole operation seems like a mess. I dont see UAL being around long term.

By the way you posted this on 11-14-2017 just 2 months ago on an AA thread:

"The 25B in debt makes me wonder what happens when there is a slight blip in the economy and they cant make those aircraft payments."

Rsv4lyfe 01-27-2018 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2513051)
By the way you posted this on 11-14-2017 just 2 months ago on an AA thread:

"The 25B in debt makes me wonder what happens when there is a slight blip in the economy and they cant make those aircraft payments."

Oh don’t worry. He’s the same guy that wanted to fly to Memphis to “drop off a resume at the FedEx recruiting office,” then a month later bashed FedEx and all their night flying.

I don’t think he knows what he wants.

Han Solo 01-27-2018 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2512980)
AA made more revenue in the 4th quarter than UA and DL yet had the lowest profit and margin.......who will survive?

Whoever claims to know is full of stuff, that much I know.

JetBlast77 01-28-2018 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by sherpster (Post 2512589)
I just left UAL training for AA and I am really glad I did. AA is a top notch operation.

This dude is the biggest troll on all of APC. Don’t let him get you riled up. If what he says is true and he really is going to AA, they can have him. I never understood the people who have the “my airline vs your airline” mentality. We are pilots. We aren’t managers or shareholders. We were hired to do one specific job. We have very little effect on how our respective companies are doing. Advancement in this career has ZERO to do with skill. None of us are better than the next guy.

I have friends at LCCs who have told me stories from the Jumpseat about legacy pilots talking down to them because they aren’t flying for “the big guys”. Who cares? Everyone has the magic pay and QOL they are looking for. If you can minimize the commute and make a good living, that’s what matters. Work to live, don’t live to work. I feel bad for the people that make this career their entire life. There’s so much more out there. Not sure where that rant came from, but I’m done now 😜


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