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BunkerF16 01-02-2018 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 2493835)
Not to bag on Bunk, because I like him in person, but if I was on mil leave for 13 years, missed most/all of years 1-12 pay and not being the top dude in my base/seat, came back from leave to $300k as the top dude in the right seat hand picking bought trips, plus a military pension and retired military medical (not having to pay JetBlue’s outrageous medical costs), with 18 days off a month, I probably wouldn’t be jaded and would have the same great outlook of JetBlue as he does. He never really experienced NOT being in the top percent. I commend him for his service and sacrifice, his getting lucky with his timing and his mil leave, and his ability to spend time with and provide for his family. I wish all jetblue pilots had that ability, and from our perspective here, our experiences have been vastly different than his.

Hey...check your PMs.

I can't argue with anything you said. I was gone for several years. I am retired military. I always said that I'm thankful for the lucky timing I fell into, having nothing to do with skill or intelligence. And I too wish all JB pilots significantly increase their $ and QOL with a market rate contract. And soon!

Now, back to the OP's original topic.....I'll gladly continue to debate JB stuff on our own board....

BunkerF16 01-02-2018 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2493853)
For the Jetblue pilots:

I understand that your PTO is a vacation/sick combo. Does this incentivize guys to fly sick? If someone is selling back all their PTO at a premium are they a super human that doesn’t get sick or is there another bank for sick time?

Unfortunately yes, it does.

You do have the ability to take UTS, which is unpaid sick time. So you won't get paid for that pairing you drop. What guys who have enough PTO will do, is UTS, then sell back the PTO to make up for that trip.

For instance, if you're dropping a FL turn that's worth 6 hours. Guys who have the PTO will UTS that trip, then they can sell back 4 hours of PTO.

That way they will only get 4 hours of PTO taken out of their bank (paying 6 hrs--equal to that dropped trip) as opposed to taking PTS (paid sick time) where they'd have to use 6 hours of PTO.

Does that make sense?

Bluedriver 01-02-2018 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by BunkerF16 (Post 2493833)
BD. Keep your JB hating to the JB board. Your act is tiring.

Take your JetBlue defending and shove it up your rear. You have it great here, the rest of us don't and the rest of this industry is sick and tired of us dragging down the professional average compensation for major airline pilots.

Is that clear enough?

BunkerF16 01-02-2018 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2493870)
Take your JetBlue defending and shove it up your rear. You have it great here, the rest of us don't and the rest of this industry is sick and tired of us dragging down the professional average compensation for major airline pilots.

Is that clear enough?

What's clear is you're an angry little troll who's only job is to make sure everyone is as pi$$ed off as you. I wasn't advocating or defending anyone or anything on this thread. It was YOU who attacked. Again, your act is old, tiring and pathetic.

Feel free to respond to me on the JB board or send me a PM so you don't keep clouding up this thread.

Or, if you have the balls, come tell me about your anger to me face to face at the picketing event. I'll be one of the organizers.

Bluedriver 01-02-2018 10:13 AM

I'm sorry you don't like me telling the true reality for most of us here right now.

Qotsaautopilot 01-02-2018 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by BunkerF16 (Post 2493858)
Unfortunately yes, it does.

You do have the ability to take UTS, which is unpaid sick time. So you won't get paid for that pairing you drop. What guys who have enough PTO will do, is UTS, then sell back the PTO to make up for that trip.

For instance, if you're dropping a FL turn that's worth 6 hours. Guys who have the PTO will UTS that trip, then they can sell back 4 hours of PTO.

That way they will only get 4 hours of PTO taken out of their bank (paying 6 hrs--equal to that dropped trip) as opposed to taking PTS (paid sick time) where they'd have to use 6 hours of PTO.

Does that make sense?

Yes thanks

SlipKid 01-02-2018 11:40 AM

SWA 12 year Capt

102 days worked (plus a few sick calls)

520 hours block

$315k gross pay, plus retirement etc.

No socks.....

Sparta 01-02-2018 12:11 PM

Ual 737 Capt. 12+ years (40% seniority in base)
$328,969 gross (includes 34K profit sharing)
46k B fund contributions by company
Total Compensation 375k
116 days worked (reserve for 4 months with low time)
560 hours block
If I lived in a trailer in the employee parking lot I could be in the 500 club...

FlyingOkra 01-02-2018 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by Rsv4lyfe (Post 2492945)
Any FedEx'ers?

Not a great sample, but it’ll provide some insight for potential New Hires.

1) FedEx
2) FO
3) 767
4) 1st year
5) Overnights - Not accurate measure
6) Days Worked - Not accurate measure
7) 511 Block (includes Training Sim time)
8) Credit N/A due 4 months Training Pay ($4,000/month)
9) Gross Pay - $93,000 (FedEx $75,600 / Spirit $17,550)
10) 401k DC or Match - $7,600 (FedEx $6,000 / Spirit $1,600)

*Live in Base
*2 Months income from Spirit
*4 Months Training Pay @ FedEx
*1 Pair of Socks :D

e6bpilot 01-02-2018 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by SlipKid (Post 2493939)
SWA 12 year Capt

No socks.....



I’ll sell you mine!


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