"Veteran ERAU pilot" embarrasses herself onTV
05-16-2018, 11:48 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
"Sink Rate" probably isn't the hint that you should pull power early.
I have thousands of hours in that thing, and the stars would have to line up right. I could do it, but frankly there were things I could do with that airplane which in the end I chose not to because it set a bad example for the FO. Stable approach and all that. When I was coming up, teaching FO's to maximize performance was part of the drill... today it's probably best just to teach them basic SOP and respect for the envelope they've been given. They won't have time to master their RJ before they upgrade.
I have thousands of hours in that thing, and the stars would have to line up right. I could do it, but frankly there were things I could do with that airplane which in the end I chose not to because it set a bad example for the FO. Stable approach and all that. When I was coming up, teaching FO's to maximize performance was part of the drill... today it's probably best just to teach them basic SOP and respect for the envelope they've been given. They won't have time to master their RJ before they upgrade.
I also have thousands of hours of CRJ-200 time FWIW. In my experience, flat landings was much more of a problem than pulling power early with people flying that plane.
05-16-2018, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Baradium
Sorry, I watched I without audio. That said, I couldn't really tell, can you tell what flap setting she was using? I seem to recall zero flap landings can easily result in nuisance sink rate calls. A flap 20 landing for single engine shouldn't have though.
I also have thousands of hours of CRJ-200 time FWIW. In my experience, flat landings was much more of a problem than pulling power early with people flying that plane.
I also have thousands of hours of CRJ-200 time FWIW. In my experience, flat landings was much more of a problem than pulling power early with people flying that plane.
I didn't notice flaps, but it *should* have been 20.
05-16-2018, 12:25 PM
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Check out the :54 second mark. You need to pause and take a screen shot - nose low and significant left bank angle, looks like a high altitude stall might have happened.
Also check out the 1:47 ish screen shot - PAPI is all white. That’s where the “sink rate” comes from.
Also check out the 1:47 ish screen shot - PAPI is all white. That’s where the “sink rate” comes from.
05-16-2018, 12:47 PM
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While I’m not sure what the stick shaker was about (increased stall speed with speed brake extension when she was already close to min speed for ac config?), picking her apart over a “sink rate”, possible early reduction to idle thrust, and manually extending ground spoilers? Slow day on APC I’m guessing. Cast the first stone if you’ve never gotten a “sink rate” or similar annunciation when flying single engine, single pilot, and explaining what’s going on in lay terms to a reporter. Knowing nothing about the crj, she looks like she did a pretty good job to me and I’m not even sure she flies reqularly.
I know nothing of this woman’s background but she is good looking, there were plenty of daunting chimes, alerts, and synthetic voices yet she landed safely- sensational in 60 minutes eyes.
I know nothing of this woman’s background but she is good looking, there were plenty of daunting chimes, alerts, and synthetic voices yet she landed safely- sensational in 60 minutes eyes.
05-16-2018, 01:00 PM
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05-16-2018, 01:10 PM
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Meh, the general flying public have no idea what they saw or heard and I’ve done worse, I give her a pass.
The news called me to talk about the “miracle on the Hudson”, No was my answer and it should have been hers too.
The news called me to talk about the “miracle on the Hudson”, No was my answer and it should have been hers too.
05-16-2018, 01:14 PM
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"Veteran ERAU pilot" embarrasses herself onTV
Originally Posted by echelon
For the wrong airplane though... I guess I just don't understand why they went to ERAU in the first place to watch a Cessna instructor play around in a CRJ sim when there's no shortage of 737 sims or pilots that are actually qualified to fly airliners.
First of all. NEVER, EVER PULL THE SPOILERS LIKE SHE DID AT THE END. It’s not a Speed Brake.
2nd. Media have treated Airlines really badly! 95% of their stories are negative publicity and negative imagery for the Airlines.
Not even Southwest Airlines, the focus would allow them the media into their sims. Smart decision for good reason:
Reporters might say say one thing, but once it gets into the editing room and in the producers hand! Good your SOL! Video above is the exact reason Airlines denied the media’s request many times over!
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