[Breeze] Airways
#1811
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 194
Here's a thought!.. How much is spending time with your wife/husband/ and kids worth? How much is it worth to be there for all those games, those parent nights, those birthdays.. church. How much does a pilot have to make per hour before that silly family stuff is worth less than all that pay?
Spolier alert.. that number is relative to each of us. And quite frankly, it's none of any one else's business what my family is worth to you. I only answer to them. And for many people at Breeze who are here because being home every night, and at least all day three days a week, it is worth way more than what you value it to be, this is why many people are here.
Call us crazy. But our families love seeing us every day. 🤷♂️
Cockroaches? Seriously.. enjoy your divorce (es).
Spolier alert.. that number is relative to each of us. And quite frankly, it's none of any one else's business what my family is worth to you. I only answer to them. And for many people at Breeze who are here because being home every night, and at least all day three days a week, it is worth way more than what you value it to be, this is why many people are here.
Call us crazy. But our families love seeing us every day. 🤷♂️
Cockroaches? Seriously.. enjoy your divorce (es).
#1812
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 105
You do realize he is home every night at Allegiant, right? Allegiant is the lowest paid Airbus operator right now but the contract is up for negotiations at this very moment. Allegiant will get a big pay increase, and then the next airline in negotiations will use that to pull their CBA rates up even higher...and then the cycle will repeat as the contracts come back up for negotiation again. Breeze has some of the same EX Allegiant management people that did everything in their power to keep a union off the property, fight against a CBA, and seemed to work hard to make pilots' lives miserable just for their enjoyment. I don't knock you for what you are doing, I get the not having options standpoint and the doing it for my family viewpoint, but please don't kid yourself about the work rules, pay rates, stock, etc being a good thing for your pilots or the company making everything right soon.
another reminder. Breeze JUST opened for business! ..
#1813
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,469
#1814
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 262
yes because keeping your costs low during the initial growth phase of a new company is such a unique novel idea. Clearly you know nothing of business startup.
#1815
Covfefe
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,001
Which is why startups typically give equity as part of the compensation package…to make up for lower compensation and taking the startup risk. So, how much equity is Breeze giving out?
#1816
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,469
And no, it has never been a successful idea. You need a competitive compensation package to attract the best talent. Often startups base this on equity. The equity package of Breeze is nothing short of a joke.
Try again.
#1817
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,469
They are effectively asking for A-round funding from their employees with a post-IPO valuation.
#1819
But an airline??? Which is in a commodity service industry? Equity valuation will be a long, slow plodding march, set back as costs gradually rise and the competitors start resisting your encroachment. Always with the risk of a big downturn wiping you out. Gonna depend on timing and luck frankly. Almost might as well go to Vegas, at least you know if you won or lost right away.
IIRC a few people did make out that way with SW and maybe B6, so not impossible but it doesn't seem like a great personal financial plan.
#1820
So now I gota make my life decisions based on what you guys and your company are doing? I want the industry to move in the right direction for pilots, but if I feel this is the right move for me then I'm a cockroach? Do you also get on the Sun Country page and light them up? Bottom line for me is this is a second career for me, it allows me to have the time to focus on my main gig cause of the base and schedule. The notion that it's some how my responsibility to go someplace to benefit someone els is bananas to me. I'm gona look out for me period. Making decisions to to help others? Sounds like some liberal stuff right there.
I might be wrong but I don't think this 80 pilot airline is comparable to Allegiant or Jetblue yet.
I might be wrong but I don't think this 80 pilot airline is comparable to Allegiant or Jetblue yet.
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