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08-05-2019, 07:08 PM
#251
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Originally Posted by blinkpilot182
JetBlue pilots didn't unionize until 2014 I believe.
08-06-2019, 07:11 AM
#252
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
That’s my point. It takes time to scale the business and generate the cash flow to pay the pilots industry-competitive wages. You can’t expect union representation right off the bat (but hopefully eventually). I imagine, like JB, stock options will be used to attract initial pilots.
08-06-2019, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Labor has a cost just like fuel. You dont get a discount on fuel as a new airline.
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08-06-2019, 01:58 PM
#254
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Originally Posted by DeltaCorrectons
You do when like Skywest pilots exists and already fly for a non union airline for not great wages. Throw in a new jet on top of it and let them wear their sunglasses inside and you have your ready made pilot group.
A very special pilot group they are
Last edited by tomgoodman; 08-08-2019 at 06:56 AM. Reason: Cleanup
08-08-2019, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
That’s my point. It takes time to scale the business and generate the cash flow to pay the pilots industry-competitive wages. You can’t expect union representation right off the bat (but hopefully eventually). I imagine, like JB, stock options will be used to attract initial pilots.
08-08-2019, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Labor has a cost just like fuel. You dont get a discount on fuel as a new airline.
08-08-2019, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Labor has a cost just like fuel. You dont get a discount on fuel as a new airline.
08-08-2019, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
But you DO get a discount in labor. In a brand new airline even the most senior guy is still going to be on the first year of the payscale - whatever that is. On a legacy airline the MEDIAN guy is half way to retirement and probably is at year 12.
...ooooo look shiny airplanes
08-09-2019, 01:11 PM
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I don’t know, but I would imagine, like was the case with JB and a lot of startups, stock options will be thrown out in the mix.... Who knows? It’s possible because you need to attract qualified and experienced pilots somehow...
08-09-2019, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
I don’t know, but I would imagine, like was the case with JB and a lot of startups, stock options will be thrown out in the mix.... Who knows? It’s possible because you need to attract qualified and experienced pilots somehow...
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