Swapapotamoose

I doubt it, they’re still filling classes. I don’t see why they would raise pay. They’re already on par with spirit and F9 and we fly smaller equipment.

SkyBound707

You make a good point. Although alot of other carriers are currently working on new contracts or just got new contracts. I am not 100% sure about F9. Maybe, the thought is or was in anticipation of the "going rate" of a pilot increasing over the next year.

SkyBound707

Does anyone know how many classes per month Breeze is conducting?

iflyufly

About two classes per month. There are two sides to the company here at Breeze - No problem getting pilots for the 220 (or who show up hoping to get the 220), and a struggle to hire for & manage the Ejet fleet. Instead of relying on training/seniority to determine if someone is capable of performing the duties of a captain, they very early on decided that upgrades need 1,500 121 hours instead of the regulatory 1,000. I should note that it certainly sounds like this decision was not run by everybody in the company, just flight ops - whom all came from LCCs, not regionals, hence the total lack of knowledge on how to train low time pilots/low time captain upgrades.

On another thought line - I'm curious to hear thoughts from folks who are at Breeze about the operation. It seems like the "Allegiant Way" has crept into the operations side of the business - that being "IROPS is Normal Ops".

What say ye?

SkyBound707

Not at Breeze. Therefore, I cannot comment on your question. However, I appreciate the insight and perspective.

Seneca Pilot

The people I know there say turn times are too tight and block times are a little tight and that results in constant lateness. All I know.

shortspatula

They will probably lower the upgrade mins soon. Just like elsewhere, the more pilots, planes, and routes we have, the more smooth the ops will be. Sounds like 2023 will be a focus on improving the quality of the operation we already have.

JJHFlyer

Is anyone able to give any insight to this?

Dash 8 Q400

A lot are being told things that are turning out not to be true. Hired on or lots of openings for home based option, not true. Lots of DECs being recruited so even if you come in as DEC, you’ll have people behind you, not true. You have to bid for everything and hope you get what you want but you may not. Breeze is really, as has been said many times, a non commutable airline so if you think you can or will, it’ll be really unlikely. Pilots need to just be told what to expect, or what will be expected, as a new hire with 100% transparency.

The reality is that there are just so many other opportunities and the regionals are paying better. The LCCs are brining up their pay to attract and retain pilots. The Jetblue/Spirit merger will be a rather big deal.

Breeze is probably spending more money on constantly training people because of attrition instead of bringing up both hard and soft pay with better schedules. They will have to address a lot of issues in order to grow and survive but it’s going to be tough with all the competition. I’d choose Jetblue or another major if you have the experience.

Nothing against Breeze, or the fine people, but it’s honestly a big risk!

Swapapotamoose

This is true. Half of upper level management came from there, but I do believe it bothers David and threatens the survival of a new carrier. G4 can afford to crap on their passengers because they have monopolies on their routes and they’ve been around for a while. Apparently management is developing a plan to recover the flying when things go south and to track departments for accountability. Azul just got voted the most punctual airline in the world, so I’m sure David will be incorporating a lot of their procedures into Breeze. It would be “seriously nice” to distance ourselves from the G4 way as much as possible.