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flensr 06-19-2018 09:46 PM

Alexa devices in hotel rooms
 
Another hotel "feature", now your room will come complete with an always-on snooping device. Even if you unplug the device, the hotel would probably have already shared your name and room number (through the alexa device ID) with Amazon. Trip passes through Boston and you stay in an alexa-featured marriott? See Boston-specific ads all over your favorite websites for the next couple of months.

You're welcome.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/amazon...exa-to-hotels/

Anyone want to bet that our hotel committees and companies aren't going to be able to anonymize us, and everything we do during trip rest periods is going to end up in Amazon's customer databases? Because declining to accept the hotel's new "privacy" policy would require a complete re-negotiation with the hotel over service contract terms.

A truly random check-in ID number would work but that would play hell with hotel scheduling especially for short notice reservations. Using employee numbers would simply add our employee number to whatever other marketing data Amazon already has on us, and there's no guarantee that the hotel won't just copy it down and add it to the reservation data passed to Amazon anyhow.

Pogey Bait 06-19-2018 11:42 PM

Unplug the god damn thing and drop it off at the front desk. Done.

captjns 06-20-2018 05:17 AM

How about that DCVRs in our airplanes, and now DHV&VRs in our hotel rooms.:mad: Beware, or embrace the moment... Alexa may be watching, laughing recording, and reporting your special ALONE TIME:eek:

FMGEC 06-20-2018 07:03 AM

Some people put tape over the cameras on their company issued iPad. They fear they are being watched; by the same company that can barely keep the crew room WiFi up and running and ink ribbons stocked on the dot matrix printers at the gate.

Their is a lot of respect given to the capabilities of others when it comes to commercial grade electronics.

If someone wants to watch me walk out of the shower while I’m at the Crowne Plaza- grab some popcorn and enjoy the show. You’ll quickly find my life to be pretty boring.

flensr 06-20-2018 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by Pogey Bait (Post 2617763)
Unplug the god damn thing and drop it off at the front desk. Done.

Except that as soon as you check in, the hotel sends your name to Amazon so that if you did use the alexa, they can add that to your consumer preferences database.

captjns 06-20-2018 09:00 AM

Seems like a job for the airlines’ hotel committees.

Qotsaautopilot 06-22-2018 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by FMGEC (Post 2617911)
Some people put tape over the cameras on their company issued iPad. They fear they are being watched; by the same company that can barely keep the crew room WiFi up and running and ink ribbons stocked on the dot matrix printers at the gate.

Their is a lot of respect given to the capabilities of others when it comes to commercial grade electronics.

If someone wants to watch me walk out of the shower while I’m at the Crowne Plaza- grab some popcorn and enjoy the show. You’ll quickly find my life to be pretty boring.

It’s not your airline watching you on your company iPad it’s anyone.

Albief15 06-22-2018 08:35 AM

I have to wonder of some scientists are off in a cave somewhere wondering “ Does he REALLY beat off THAT much?” I apologize in advance for skewing all the data....

METO Guido 06-22-2018 10:38 AM

^^^Stumble onto a surprise every now & then perusing these pages.
Now is one of those times.

Broncofan 06-23-2018 07:47 AM

the paranoia runs strong in some people

Truthanator 06-23-2018 07:49 AM

https://media1.tenor.com/images/6673...itemid=7960871

symbian simian 06-23-2018 05:58 PM

If they were interested in what you are doing (very big if), they really wouldn't care about your facial expression while you are doing it (or the wallpaper behind you), but they would monitor what is happening on the screen, so what you need to do is keep the screen off while you are on your iPad........

Hetman 06-23-2018 10:30 PM

It's not the NSA we need to worry about. While we're all het up about government surveillance, Google and Amazon permeate.

qball 06-24-2018 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Broncofan (Post 2620136)
the paranoia runs strong in some people

I wouldn’t be paranoid if everyone wasn’t out to get me😜

Floobs 06-24-2018 01:04 PM

Nobody wants to look or listen to you. You're not that important.

DENpilot 06-24-2018 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Floobs (Post 2620907)
Nobody wants to look or listen to you. You're not that important.

This! Seriously folks, get over yourselves. Why would anyone want to watch/hear/eavesdrop on a random person staying in a Marriott in Boston?

Rahlifer 06-24-2018 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 2620962)
This! Seriously folks, get over yourselves. Why would anyone want to watch/hear/eavesdrop on a random person staying in a Marriott in Boston?

Just to try and sell you crap. I have Alexa at home and I’ve noticed that somethings that I ask her to look up for me eventually show up advertised on my amazon app/website and even get email offers as well. So it’s all really just about targeted advertising.

flensr 06-24-2018 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 2620962)
This! Seriously folks, get over yourselves. Why would anyone want to watch/hear/eavesdrop on a random person staying in a Marriott in Boston?

Because your activities and everything you say will add to your advertising profile. Amazon makes a lot of money that way and they sell that profile to other companies. That bugs a lot of people.

badflaps 06-25-2018 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by flensr (Post 2621230)
Because your activities and everything you say will add to your advertising profile. Amazon makes a lot of money that way and they sell that profile to other companies. That bugs a lot of people.

That would explain all my laxitve and supository e-mails.....

maddymoriwaki 11-07-2022 05:55 AM

So I'm not the only one who thinks these devices are spying on us

nene 11-07-2022 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by ouafaex (Post 3527872)
I would not want to stay in a hotel with this thing in the room. And a scarier fact is that there might be some devices that are not that evident. There might be hidden cameras and microphones all around a hotel room, and there were numerous cases when people found them. That’s why I almost never stay in hotels and choose them carefully.
I also think that some of the devices we have at home might have this listening function, and that’s why I keep my Vont smart remote-control plugs off when I am not using them. And my phone is listening too. You might call me crazy, but it does, and it uses it to create more relevant ads.

When wife and I first were married, had a home in the burbs. She (from the city) insists on every shade/curtain/window closed at night no matter how unlikely or improbable a peeper might be.

I grew up in the country where one would excuse themselves and turn around and pee.

She used to say, "what if someone looks in the window and sees you naked"

I'd say "well that's their fault, shouldn't have been looking"

It is fascinating how different humans sense of privacy importance can be from full nudists to full burka wearing only in the dark.

TransWorld 11-07-2022 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by ouafaex (Post 3527872)
I would not want to stay in a hotel with this thing in the room. And a scarier fact is that there might be some devices that are not that evident. There might be hidden cameras and microphones all around a hotel room, and there were numerous cases when people found them. That’s why I almost never stay in hotels and choose them carefully.
I also think that some of the devices we have at home might have this listening function, and that’s why I keep my Vont smart remote-control plugs off when I am not using them. And my phone is listening too. You might call me crazy, but it does, and it uses it to create more relevant ads.

I have been in hotel rooms in developing countries that I am certain were bugged.

highfarfast 11-07-2022 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by ouafaex (Post 3527872)
I would not want to stay in a hotel with this thing in the room. And a scarier fact is that there might be some devices that are not that evident. There might be hidden cameras and microphones all around a hotel room, and there were numerous cases when people found them. That’s why I almost never stay in hotels and choose them carefully.
I also think that some of the devices we have at home might have this listening function, and that’s why I keep my Vont smart remote-control plugs off when I am not using them. And my phone is listening too. You might call me crazy, but it does, and it uses it to create more relevant ads.

Post count checks out. As does old thread bump.

Got your tin foil hat on? If so, don’t worry or bother us with this nonsense. We’re too busy planning on when to discharge our chemtrails.

highfarfast 11-07-2022 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3528101)
I have been in hotel rooms in developing countries that I am certain were bugged.

Well done.

highfarfast 11-07-2022 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by nene (Post 3527890)
When wife and I first were married, had a home in the burbs. She (from the city) insists on every shade/curtain/window closed at night no matter how unlikely or improbable a peeper might be.

I grew up in the country where one would excuse themselves and turn around and pee.

She used to say, "what if someone looks in the window and sees you naked"

I'd say "well that's their fault, shouldn't have been looking"

It is fascinating how different humans sense of privacy importance can be from full nudists to full burka wearing only in the dark.

I grew up in ‘the coutnry’ and my wife is, for all practical purposes, a city girl. We live in a beautiful compromise in that we live so close to town we might as well be in town but we have several acres with no neighbors in sight. We have the same kind of ‘discussions’.

Flyonwall 11-07-2022 07:49 PM

I used to be a confident up and coming lawyer. Just fresh out of college. Had the firm of my choice. When I chose one they supplied me with a car, house, money…all the nice things in life. Then I realized they were spying on me and my wife. I had to turn the volume up really loud on the radio to tell her. Her reaction was hard. It was a tough break but we got out. A vacation in the Caribbean was fun but they watched me there too.

avi8orco 11-07-2022 09:07 PM

I’d be more worried if the bed sheets were actually changed with a washed set when the room was cleaned than the hotel bugging the room.

rickair7777 11-08-2022 05:28 AM

I deleted the spam bot you guys were talking to.

nene 11-08-2022 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by avi8orco (Post 3528357)
I’d be more worried if the bed sheets were actually changed with a washed set when the room was cleaned than the hotel bugging the room.

Exactly, get a black light off Amazon and have a go before you enter your next hotel room. You'll probably sleep with your clothes and shoes on.

Carl LaFong 11-08-2022 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by Flyonwall (Post 3528341)
I used to be a confident up and coming lawyer. Just fresh out of college. Had the firm of my choice. When I chose one they supplied me with a car, house, money…all the nice things in life. Then I realized they were spying on me and my wife. I had to turn the volume up really loud on the radio to tell her. Her reaction was hard. It was a tough break but we got out. A vacation in the Caribbean was fun but they watched me there too.

I would read that book.

bonvoyage 11-08-2022 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3528440)
I deleted the spam bot you guys were talking to.

One doesn’t simply delete the spam bot, the spam bot spies on and then deletes you.

at6d 11-08-2022 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by Flyonwall (Post 3528341)
I used to be a confident up and coming lawyer. Just fresh out of college. Had the firm of my choice. When I chose one they supplied me with a car, house, money…all the nice things in life. Then I realized they were spying on me and my wife. I had to turn the volume up really loud on the radio to tell her. Her reaction was hard. It was a tough break but we got out. A vacation in the Caribbean was fun but they watched me there too.

Your wife was hot at that time.

ACMIguy 11-08-2022 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Flyonwall (Post 3528341)
I used to be a confident up and coming lawyer. Just fresh out of college. Had the firm of my choice. When I chose one they supplied me with a car, house, money…all the nice things in life. Then I realized they were spying on me and my wife. I had to turn the volume up really loud on the radio to tell her. Her reaction was hard. It was a tough break but we got out. A vacation in the Caribbean was fun but they watched me there too.

Yeah, I read The Firm too, years ago. Good book.

DeltaboundRedux 11-08-2022 08:30 AM

There's a crew hotel Big-D uses in Florida that helpfully comes equipped with it's own iPad with both forward facing and back facing cameras. Helpfully already hooked up to the internet.

I'm 100% certain that the hotel management that can't successfully program door entry keys or keep maids from knocking on a door clearly marked "Do not disturb" is right on top of having top-shelf hacking software installed on those things.

You literally have a hi-def camera connected to the internet pointed right at you in your room. Everyone over 40 finds this creepy has hell, everyone under is like "whatever man".

OOfff 11-08-2022 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux (Post 3528559)
There's a crew hotel Big-D uses in Florida that helpfully comes equipped with it's own iPad with both forward facing and back facing cameras. Helpfully already hooked up to the internet.

I'm 100% certain that the hotel management that can't successfully program door entry keys or keep maids from knocking on a door clearly marked "Do not disturb" is right on top of having top-shelf hacking software installed on those things.

You literally have a hi-def camera connected to the internet pointed right at you in your room. Everyone over 40 finds this creepy has hell, everyone under is like "whatever man".

the amount of effort required to hack that camera just to watch me beat off on the eating bed in my stained undershirt seems like a poor ROI

DeltaboundRedux 11-08-2022 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3528607)
the amount of effort required to hack that camera just to watch me beat off on the eating bed in my stained undershirt seems like a poor ROI

Adam Corolla wrote a funny book about spending lots of time in hotels when taking the show on the road.

He couldn't understand why smoking a cigarette in a hotel was awful; meanwhile the guy in the room next door was probably, uh, repeatedly "blowing his nose" into the shape of a pentagram on the bed cover, which was AOK with hotel management.

at6d 11-08-2022 11:54 AM

Just got back from a long tour of Greece and Macedonia. Apparently the memo on smoking in restaurants is still out. It was fun watching the Californian tourists panic.

Joachim 11-08-2022 01:47 PM

You guys must be really important since you worry about this stuff. I could not care less.

idlethrust 11-09-2022 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2621327)
That would explain all my laxitve and supository e-mails.....


Explains my free subscription to pornhub !!
😂

JamesNoBrakes 11-09-2022 09:16 PM

I just don't see how you could not believe in chemtrails.


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