Concessions looming at AA
10-01-2005, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Kill Bill
the flying public is NOT entitled to my retirement, my pay, my benefits, my kid's college so they can fly LA to NY for $39.00.
ALPA, let me keep my 1.95% and let me out of your union NOW. Hey Duane, you know that you are going to make more than the Delta CEO? scumbag.
10-01-2005, 08:45 AM
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I guess that's the kind of goverment support you get when you elect an anti labor administration. most pilots vote anti-labor ( never understud why some of us don't think of temselves as labor). that's what we get ( even though I did not vote for them).
10-01-2005, 09:39 AM
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Don't think for a second that Bush is anti-labor, and Clinton was pro-labor.
Here at UPS, the Clinton administration told our union prez in 1998 that there would not be another UPS (pilots this time) strike. Period. A release wasn't going to happen. Talk about tying our hands!
Now in 2005 how many times has the NMB with Bush as prez released the parties, allowing the unions to employ their greatest weapon? Granted, it isn't going well so far with the mechanics at NWA and the pilots at Polar.
But to say that the White House is to blame for the industry's ills is a stretch. I blame the industry ills on the stupid bankruptcy laws, allowing those in Chapter 11 to lower the bar and drive everyone else with it. Yes, American Airlines will end up filing Chapter 11 along with the rest of 'em.
Just don't blame the White House. It's a convenient scapegoat, as always, but not supported by the facts.
Here at UPS, the Clinton administration told our union prez in 1998 that there would not be another UPS (pilots this time) strike. Period. A release wasn't going to happen. Talk about tying our hands!
Now in 2005 how many times has the NMB with Bush as prez released the parties, allowing the unions to employ their greatest weapon? Granted, it isn't going well so far with the mechanics at NWA and the pilots at Polar.
But to say that the White House is to blame for the industry's ills is a stretch. I blame the industry ills on the stupid bankruptcy laws, allowing those in Chapter 11 to lower the bar and drive everyone else with it. Yes, American Airlines will end up filing Chapter 11 along with the rest of 'em.
Just don't blame the White House. It's a convenient scapegoat, as always, but not supported by the facts.
10-01-2005, 09:52 AM
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not saying clinton was pro-labor. but changing the way the airlines get taxed on ticket sales,security charges and planes amortizations the way the have it in europe would go a long way ( specially after sep 11) . $15b is what airlines pay in taxes each year, and every airline job relates to 15 non airline jobs. think the white house could do more not to help, but to stop destroying the industry? I do.
PS: remember our president position on cabotage ( he supports it 100%) and strikes ( does not believe workers should have the rigth to strik, arbitation , that , he thinks, is just and best). he answerered that and worse on the first election questionare sent to him by the then independent fdx pilot union ( he refuses to even answer the same questions from alpa). seems to me a bit anti-labor.
PS: remember our president position on cabotage ( he supports it 100%) and strikes ( does not believe workers should have the rigth to strik, arbitation , that , he thinks, is just and best). he answerered that and worse on the first election questionare sent to him by the then independent fdx pilot union ( he refuses to even answer the same questions from alpa). seems to me a bit anti-labor.
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