News flash for ya buddy, you already do.
Compare first year pay to second and third.
That’s you paying for your training right there.
Left or right pocket.
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The 1500 hour rule reminds me of the bar exam for attorneys. It’s an artificial barrier to entry that sucks to be on the outside looking in on but nice once you’re “in the club.”

Yes a 1500 TT pilot won’t make a bundle in his first few years but neither do new attorneys. Time + experience = an increase of pay. How much of an increase depends on the pilot and attorney’s choices career choices and options available.

Taking the 1,500 hour rule back down to where it was is akin to removing the bar exam in a given state. It’ll flood the market overnight with job applicants, giving employers a ton of leverage over prospective employees.

A similar thing happened here in NV years ago with dentists. The entrance exam to practice dentistry in NV was waived if you wereaready licensed to practice in another state and a ton of dentists flooded the Vegas market, hurting business for all fast. It also drove down the quality of work performed. The waiver was rescinded a few years later because of the problems it caused (source: my father-in-law who is a Vegas dentist).

Although I’m not at 1500 TT yet I hope it doesn’t drop to 250 again.

Username checks out. Sit in the bushes and take potshots at people.
I fly for a major. That does not really matter. My two decades of experience on both sides of the atlantic qualify me to have an opinion.

Yes, there are people in Europe too that should not be pilots, and the pressure to use the AP in the EU is very wrong, but that doesn’t change my opinion on the 1500hrs.

Negative.. FR requires a 5,000 Euro down payment with a 5 year pro-rate bond. Other Euro Lo-cost may provide similar. Housing an food are at the expense of the candidate.

Line Training in other lands
 

Line training is based on minimum number of sectors flown versus the traditional 25 hours in the U.S.

That said with a minimum of 80 sectors of line training can yield upwards of 200 to 250 hours of line training.

I enjoyed being a line training captain in Europe and Asia. Enthusiastic gals and guys. Steep learning curves on the majority of the new pilots. The majority of pilots from Euroland as well as other countries train in the US, Canada, NZ or Philippines due to the high cost in their home lands. The training/learning process is taken very seriously.

Most are well prepared for their assessments with their airlines’ of choice and onwards towards training. Prior to Sim training is Multi Crew Training. Sim training, conducted by a recognized ATO, is airline specific and comprehensive.

LSTs, generally, are conducted by airline specific TREs.

Then off to base training followed by numerous observation flights, prior to line training.

Thanks, captjns for the post. The training system outside the US is much different than here. Their 250-hour pilots are far better trained than a 250-hour FAA commercial pilot.

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I don't think civilians want to go through a military-style pilot training in order to start flying at 250 hours. You don't know what you're asking.

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The first-year pay sucked back when people had to pay for training as well. If you haven't noticed, first-year pay has been increasing since the 1500-hour rule was implemented.

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What you arent seeing in that military low time pilot product is the attrition process that distills the end result.