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BarrySeal 07-24-2019 12:47 PM

New FAA Admin supports 1,500 HR rule
 
https://archive.org/details/CSPAN3_2.../5160/end/5220

I think it is safe to say the rule is not going anywhere...

USMCFLYR 07-24-2019 12:57 PM

Good.:D......

TiredSoul 07-24-2019 02:22 PM

I was against that rule to begin with.
A useless knee jerk incorrect response to a different problem.
Provided the training is up to par I see no issue with returning to the “old” system.
They do it every day in Europe, 250 hrs and FO or SO with an equivalent level of safety.

labbats 07-24-2019 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2858500)
I was against that rule to begin with.
A useless knee jerk incorrect response to a different problem.
Provided the training is up to par I see no issue with returning to the “old” system.
They do it every day in Europe, 250 hrs and FO or SO with an equivalent level of safety.

If they pick who went to school and weed them out prior to even starting then sure. In America we don’t.

Varsity 07-24-2019 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2858500)
I was against that rule to begin with.
A useless knee jerk incorrect response to a different problem.
Provided the training is up to par I see no issue with returning to the “old” system.
They do it every day in Europe, 250 hrs and FO or SO with an equivalent level of safety.

Yeah, lets flood the market with 250 hour wonders. That will do a ton to help wages. :rolleyes:

Let me guess, we should pay for our type ratings too? After all, they do it Europe!

WHACKMASTER 07-24-2019 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2858500)
I was against that rule to begin with.
A useless knee jerk incorrect response to a different problem.
Provided the training is up to par I see no issue with returning to the “old” system.
They do it every day in Europe, 250 hrs and FO or SO with an equivalent level of safety.

Dear God, please tell me you’re just trolling.

Excargodog 07-24-2019 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2858562)
Dear God, please tell me you’re just trolling.

I think the operative phrase was "...to begin with."

Sunrig 07-24-2019 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2858500)
I was against that rule to begin with.
A useless knee jerk incorrect response to a different problem.
Provided the training is up to par I see no issue with returning to the “old” system.
They do it every day in Europe, 250 hrs and FO or SO with an equivalent level of safety.

I second that. Flew since 95 in Europe and most of the 200 hour guys do a very good job if they receive the right training. So I don’t see any issues why it wouldn’t work in the US as well.

symbian simian 07-24-2019 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2858537)
Yeah, lets flood the market with 250 hour wonders. That will do a ton to help wages. :rolleyes:

Let me guess, we should pay for our type ratings too? After all, they do it Europe!

None of the EU legacy carriers are p2f. Even Ryan doesn't charge the full cost anymore. (and no one in the EU requires a useless 4 year degree.)
Restricting entry to increase the wages? Not very American....( Free market and all)

The only reason we have 1500 hours is because a 5000hr pilot crashed a plane. He failed every possible check ride multiple times. Better training and checking improves safety much more than an hour requirement, but yes, if you are only interested in keeping your pay, by all means, support 1500hr.

Varsity 07-24-2019 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2858626)
None of the EU legacy carriers are p2f. Even Ryan doesn't charge the full cost anymore. (and no one in the EU requires a useless 4 year degree.)
Restricting entry to increase the wages? Not very American....( Free market and all)

The only reason we have 1500 hours is because a 5000hr pilot crashed a plane. He failed every possible check ride multiple times. Better training and checking improves safety much more than an hour requirement, but yes, if you are only interested in keeping your pay, by all means, support 1500hr.

You left out the part about working for a 3rd rate employment 'agency' as a contractor. Even the vaunted British Airways does that. Lufthansa has a regional airline flying A340's. Should we do that too?

The police in Germany love kicking in pilot's doors over their contractor status..

European pilots also don't get paid as much, have as much career stability, have as much schedule flexibility.

Flying in Europe sucks. Anyone who has done both will tell you so. The last thing on earth we want in the US is some schizophrenic euro pilot market.


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