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Al Czervik 12-28-2019 02:41 AM

Legacy hiring numbers 2020
 
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I’ve heard 1,300-1,500 at UAL/DL next year.

AA just put out our expected numbers:
(1,398 total/ 1,000 off the street)

What are future pilot hiring projections for American Airlines?
Our projections indicate we will hire 1398 pilots in 2020. This hiring is a result of many factors, including the fact that a lot of our pilots are approaching the FAA’s mandatory pilot retirement age of 65. Thirty one percent of our new hire pilots come to us via flow-through agreements with our wholly owned regional carriers. The remainder consists of pilots who come from the large pool of qualified candidates who have applied to be American Airlines pilots.

Voski 12-28-2019 03:32 AM

In terms of AA, the real question is how many of the ‘off-the-street’ hires are going to be non-military fixed-wing guys. Historically it’s been low in the recent past, but the pool can’t be that deep, especially when spread between 3 legacies.

ZapBrannigan 12-28-2019 04:47 AM

WN has stated 420 (about 4% growth in the seniority list) in 2020 but I’m guessing a lot of that is predicated on the return of the Max.


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Al Czervik 12-28-2019 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 2946240)
WN has stated 420 (about 4% growth in the seniority list) in 2020 but I’m guessing a lot of that is predicated on the return of the Max.


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It will be interesting if/when the max returns. I think the staffing numbers may be a little out of balance for a while.

WHACKMASTER 12-28-2019 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2946241)
It will be interesting if/when the max returns. I think the staffing numbers may be a little out of balance for a while.

Oh they’ll be out of balance alright. As in still overstaffed. :rolleyes:

contrails12 12-28-2019 06:55 AM

Jetblue:

580 for 2020 equals seniority list growth of 14%

capt707 12-28-2019 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by contrails12 (Post 2946326)
Jetblue:

580 for 2020 equals seniority list growth of 14%

LOL! Every year they post Yuuuuge numbers and it never holds true.

contrails12 12-28-2019 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by capt707 (Post 2946342)
LOL! Every year they post Yuuuuge numbers and it never holds true.

It’s been steady since 2011 or so. I’m going to be around 50% overall in about a years time after being here 7 years.

opdeliber 12-28-2019 08:13 AM

Alaska: Claims to be hiring 250-300. Historically divide this by 3 to get the truth. So maybe 120.

Strong possibility Alaska likely will not hire, even a possibility we could possibly furlough as airbuses are returned and no new airframes are acquired. Involuntary displacements and downgrades are occurring and a real threat with the latest bids and those to come.

Alaska has gotten crushed in California and is waving the white flag as they cut routes and downsize to RJs in the state after losing the virgin loyal customers. Scott Kirbys aggressive vision for United in SFO and SWA California product basically has been a death warrant for the 86 year old airline that thinks they knew best.

ClncClarence 12-28-2019 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by capt707 (Post 2946342)
LOL! Every year they post Yuuuuge numbers and it never holds true.

Over 400 hired in 2019 which was their goal and more-or-less the limit for what JBU could handle with current facilities. That was more than 10% of the SL added.

New sim building being completed this spring to handle additional capacity planned for 2020 forward. It’s completely possible to get into the high 500s.


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