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Name User 01-28-2020 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2965542)
decades of CRM data. Decades. One pilot is not the answer.

We obviously have no idea what happened with Kobe but I’d bet that having a second pilot (if there wasn’t one) probably would have done wonders for CRM in the challenging conditions if it wasn’t a mechanical issue.

One pilot aircraft operating as an airliner would throw out all we know about CRM. And quite frankly many of us and many more passengers would probably be dead today if it weren’t for operating in a crew environment and treating it as a crew mission.

I definitely agree with you in past times.

I don't really want to get into it too much because I have a separate thread for this stuff but what if something like this was installed (coincidentally installed on an S76):

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us...echnology.html

The pilot can concentrate on what's going around him/her and not flying the aircraft. Or the aircraft knows where it is and won't allow ground contact, it has geo fenced areas that will allow it to descend within XXX feet of the ground in those areas.

Interesting safety concept nonetheless.

Qotsaautopilot 01-28-2020 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2965804)
I definitely agree with you in past times.

I don't really want to get into it too much because I have a separate thread for this stuff but what if something like this was installed (coincidentally installed on an S76):

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us...echnology.html

The pilot can concentrate on what's going around him/her and not flying the aircraft. Or the aircraft knows where it is and won't allow ground contact, it has geo fenced areas that will allow it to descend within XXX feet of the ground in those areas.

Interesting safety concept nonetheless.

Or just another rated pilot to say “hey I don’t like this let’s cut bait and head back. It’s too risky.”

How many times would many of us have pushed it if it were not for the other guy sitting there saying something or just the fact that he’s even sitting there makes for more conservative and safe decision making.

305808 01-28-2020 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2965804)
I definitely agree with you in past times.

I don't really want to get into it too much because I have a separate thread for this stuff but what if something like this was installed (coincidentally installed on an S76):

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us...echnology.html

The pilot can concentrate on what's going around him/her and not flying the aircraft. Or the aircraft knows where it is and won't allow ground contact, it has geo fenced areas that will allow it to descend within XXX feet of the ground in those areas.

Interesting safety concept nonetheless.

As long as the tech works, all is great. The max crisis really makes me question who steps up and takes responsibility for design failures after tragedy.


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