US Airlines’ Request $50 Billion Bailout
#51
Then any corporate raider with any sense will buy said airlines, sell off the tangibles and runaway with trucks full of cash. Unless you have cash hoards like Microsoft, Apple, or Alphabet, and Amazon, keeping that kind of cash on hand is dangerous. This is not your personal household finances you’re talking about. The same rules don’t apply.
#52
Yeah, but some of the airlines had enormous debt loads, low profits, and gave billions in buybacks to their shareholders so giving them tax payer money can be seen as rewarding that behavior.
I’m not saying it’s absolutely correct or rational, but you saw how public sentiment turned against the banking and auto industry after the last bailouts. That could very well happen to us in the future.
I’m not saying it’s absolutely correct or rational, but you saw how public sentiment turned against the banking and auto industry after the last bailouts. That could very well happen to us in the future.
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Could yes. The good news is that the politicians know that while there might be electoral blow-back down the road, the wolf closest to the door is the immediate threat to the global economy and infrastructure. And that wolf is actually quite a bit larger than some voters holding a grudge about lost luggage or legroom.
I’m talking about the American people turning against the “bailed out” airline industry in the future. Whether that’s letting us get screwed by flags of convenience schemes, or wanting to control airline stock in exchange for the bailout I don’t know. But the backlash against the banking and auto bailouts the last time around should instruct us to steer clear of accepting bailouts.
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I’m not talking about voters holding a grudge against politicians or any political party.
I’m talking about the American people turning against the “bailed out” airline industry in the future. Whether that’s letting us get screwed by flags of convenience schemes, or wanting to control airline stock in exchange for the bailout I don’t know. But the backlash against the banking and auto bailouts the last time around should instruct us to steer clear of accepting bailouts.
I’m talking about the American people turning against the “bailed out” airline industry in the future. Whether that’s letting us get screwed by flags of convenience schemes, or wanting to control airline stock in exchange for the bailout I don’t know. But the backlash against the banking and auto bailouts the last time around should instruct us to steer clear of accepting bailouts.
Most of the angst with the auto industry was manufactured by the media and grandstanding politicians fanning the flames of class warfare with the auto execs flying their private jets to DC. That plays well with Joe and Susie Walmart, but we all know they’re legitimate business tools. Granted, the optics are bad, but the logistics are justifiable.
I guess my greater point is that it’s easy to be self absorbed with the industry we’re familiar with, but the public at large has a 3 minute attention span, and won’t give a rip about this 18-24 months from now. Particularly given that so many aren't equipped to weather this themselves.
Having said that our execs need to message this right and our crews need to put their best foot forward when the music start again. And, like the auto industry, we need to emerge as leaner organizations, better run, more solvent and presenting better products than what the airlines had become before this sorry episode.
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