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Old 04-12-2020, 08:55 PM
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So my fellow Aviators, now that we all have some time on our hands...Let's all play a little game of future predictions on what everyone thinks will happen in the near/long term. I am by no means a 'Nostradamus' but so far my thoughts have matched reality to some extent. So, I guess I will begin with the following:


First Stimulus checks for folks and businesses April 2020-

Deteriorating conditions continue, people continue getting sick/dying

Second Stimulus checks for folks and businesses June/July 2020-

Coronavirus still here, therefore conditions dont improve, people suffer greatly, more "bread lines", desperate conditions..

Simultaneously during this entire time,many businesses shutting down permanently.

Crime skyrockets, tensions increase among nations, governments around the World continue to print money like never before.

Coronavirus deaths continue, no vaccine and we are nearing 2021. Dow less than 10,000.

By now many airlines on verge of filing chapter 11 followed by chapter 7 for some. Chaos everywhere.

2021 onward, I'd rather not say right now but the future IF there is one will be very bleak from every aspect of life. Oh and the government is the primary source for food, etc for the majority of the population because supply chains severely damaged and government takes over food supplies.

USA better off than any other country so that should help visualize how bad it must be for anyone else.

I'll let others chime in and if ya'll have any questions for me then feel free to ask. I totally believe that there is such a thing as 'Clairvoyance'...I really really hope that I am wrong. I really do because all this obviously affects myself and my family/friends as well. Let's keep it civilized and respectful for all. This can become a very interesting thread if we keep some form of sanity. Time will tell and good luck to all of us
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Old 04-12-2020, 09:06 PM
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Glass half full type of guy, aren't you?
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Old 04-12-2020, 09:19 PM
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Wow.

I don't think things are going to get nearly that bad.
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Old 04-12-2020, 10:19 PM
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So my fellow Aviators, now that we all have some time on our hands...Let's all play a little game of future predictions on what everyone thinks will happen in the near/long term. I am by no means a 'Nostradamus' but so far my thoughts have matched reality to some extent. So, I guess I will begin with the following:


First Stimulus checks for folks and businesses April 2020-

Deteriorating conditions continue, people continue getting sick/dying

Second Stimulus checks for folks and businesses June/July 2020-

Coronavirus still here, therefore conditions dont improve, people suffer greatly, more "bread lines", desperate conditions..

Simultaneously during this entire time,many businesses shutting down permanently.

Crime skyrockets, tensions increase among nations, governments around the World continue to print money like never before.

Coronavirus deaths continue, no vaccine and we are nearing 2021. Dow less than 10,000.

By now many airlines on verge of filing chapter 11 followed by chapter 7 for some. Chaos everywhere.

2021 onward, I'd rather not say right now but the future IF there is one will be very bleak from every aspect of life. Oh and the government is the primary source for food, etc for the majority of the population because supply chains severely damaged and government takes over food supplies.

USA better off than any other country so that should help visualize how bad it must be for anyone else.

I'll let others chime in and if ya'll have any questions for me then feel free to ask. I totally believe that there is such a thing as 'Clairvoyance'...I really really hope that I am wrong. I really do because all this obviously affects myself and my family/friends as well. Let's keep it civilized and respectful for all. This can become a very interesting thread if we keep some form of sanity. Time will tell and good luck to all of us
OK, so I understand you're trying to paint the worst case scenario. I have no idea what's going to happen, and can assure that you and others have no way of knowing either. Therefore, I'm not going to play the prophecy game with you. I'm puzzled, however, why you think the USA is going to be in better position than any other country by 2021. It's really puzzling to me how it's possible that we can't see how far behind every other country we have fallen (as far as the response to this crisis and a subsequent imminent recovery). Most of my family lives in Europe and I'm in touch with them all the time. Most of European countries reacted way faster than us and are in much better shape right now. They actually use the US situation as an example of mismanagement and failure. The numbers are pretty telling. We're definitely behind as far as the supply chains are concerned. It's beyond belief to my parents that we still can't find cleaning supplies or toilet paper in the stores. As I said, I have no intention to predict the future, but from what I'm seeing right now, we're by far in the worst position, at least compared to the EU.
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Old 04-13-2020, 12:02 AM
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OK, so I understand you're trying to paint the worst case scenario. I have no idea what's going to happen, and can assure that you and others have no way of knowing either. Therefore, I'm not going to play the prophecy game with you. I'm puzzled, however, why you think the USA is going to be in better position than any other country by 2021. It's really puzzling to me how it's possible that we can't see how far behind every other country we have fallen (as far as the response to this crisis and a subsequent imminent recovery). Most of my family lives in Europe and I'm in touch with them all the time. Most of European countries reacted way faster than us and are in much better shape right now. They actually use the US situation as an example of mismanagement and failure. The numbers are pretty telling. We're definitely behind as far as the supply chains are concerned. It's beyond belief to my parents that we still can't find cleaning supplies or toilet paper in the stores. As I said, I have no intention to predict the future, but from what I'm seeing right now, we're by far in the worst position, at least compared to the EU.
i disagree that the USA will be worse than other places in recovery. Spain and Italy will have ten times the mortality with respect to their total population on this first wave. I think the average American and outside observer is seeing the problem with having a 50 state system without a real coordinated plan. Stronger leadership at the federal level could put more pressure in states, but their role thus far has been to print money and act like the WHO/CDC in that they have sort of this weird advisory role that seems to react to what each state needs. If a stronger coordinated effort emerges, then there the second wave of infections may look different than this first one by having a plan with procedures in place. I have little faith in our government, but more faith in businesses and even individuals adapting to this new environment.
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Old 04-13-2020, 02:56 AM
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The airlines will be in bankruptcy way before the DOW gets to 11K. I do not think it will be as dark and bad as you think. Eventually the public will become wise .
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Originally Posted by NYC Pilot View Post
So my fellow Aviators, now that we all have some time on our hands...Let's all play a little game of future predictions on what everyone thinks will happen in the near/long term. I am by no means a 'Nostradamus' but so far my thoughts have matched reality to some extent. So, I guess I will begin with the following:


First Stimulus checks for folks and businesses April 2020-

Deteriorating conditions continue, people continue getting sick/dying

Second Stimulus checks for folks and businesses June/July 2020-

Coronavirus still here, therefore conditions dont improve, people suffer greatly, more "bread lines", desperate conditions..

Simultaneously during this entire time,many businesses shutting down permanently.

Crime skyrockets, tensions increase among nations, governments around the World continue to print money like never before.

Coronavirus deaths continue, no vaccine and we are nearing 2021. Dow less than 10,000.

By now many airlines on verge of filing chapter 11 followed by chapter 7 for some. Chaos everywhere.

2021 onward, I'd rather not say right now but the future IF there is one will be very bleak from every aspect of life. Oh and the government is the primary source for food, etc for the majority of the population because supply chains severely damaged and government takes over food supplies.

USA better off than any other country so that should help visualize how bad it must be for anyone else.

I'll let others chime in and if ya'll have any questions for me then feel free to ask. I totally believe that there is such a thing as 'Clairvoyance'...I really really hope that I am wrong. I really do because all this obviously affects myself and my family/friends as well. Let's keep it civilized and respectful for all. This can become a very interesting thread if we keep some form of sanity. Time will tell and good luck to all of us
I think you got it nailed.

I'm going to buy more guns this week for my protection from the increased crime.

If it does get so bad that we have bread lines, I'm going to use the guns to encourage my way to the front of the line.

I always like to look at the positive side of a situation. Opportunity.
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Old 04-13-2020, 03:04 AM
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I think you got it nailed.

I'm going to buy more guns this week for my protection from the increased crime.

If it does get so bad that we have bread lines, I'm going to use the guns to encourage my way to the front of the line.

I always like to look at the positive side of a situation. Opportunity.

To much work , just wait for the neighbor that is coming back full of supplies .
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Old 04-13-2020, 03:13 AM
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Are you really that scared? I can imagine that kind of fear would be crippling.
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Old 04-13-2020, 03:15 AM
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OK, so I understand you're trying to paint the worst case scenario. I have no idea what's going to happen, and can assure that you and others have no way of knowing either. Therefore, I'm not going to play the prophecy game with you. I'm puzzled, however, why you think the USA is going to be in better position than any other country by 2021. It's really puzzling to me how it's possible that we can't see how far behind every other country we have fallen (as far as the response to this crisis and a subsequent imminent recovery). Most of my family lives in Europe and I'm in touch with them all the time. Most of European countries reacted way faster than us and are in much better shape right now. They actually use the US situation as an example of mismanagement and failure. The numbers are pretty telling. We're definitely behind as far as the supply chains are concerned. It's beyond belief to my parents that we still can't find cleaning supplies or toilet paper in the stores. As I said, I have no intention to predict the future, but from what I'm seeing right now, we're by far in the worst position, at least compared to the EU.
I agree with this. This has just cemented in my mind and the minds of many others that the US has lost its place as a world leader. It's been happening slowly over the last couple decades, but now it's blindingly obvious how behind we really are. The world no longer looks to us for leadership.
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