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Huell 10-13-2020 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by atooraya (Post 3144793)
I hear North Charleston is a utopian dream!

Where is ‘Bad Phil’ these days? :D

GogglesPisano 10-13-2020 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Huell (Post 3144876)
I do hope that you work at a non union outfit. If not, I would encourage you to leave your current stinking union job and go to a nonunion outfit.

Damned unions ... In the past they sucked the life out of corporations and built a non deserving middle class.

He’d be a great fit at one of the ME3. Or 30th St in MIA, where his “rugged individualism” would break the bonds of the seniority system and socialist collective unionism. You go, Sonic! Stick by your convictions as you negotiate your 5th MEL on a dark and stormy night.

badflaps 10-13-2020 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 3144878)
He’d be a great fit at one of the ME3. Or 30th St in MIA, where his “rugged individualism” would break the bonds of the seniority system and socialist collective unionism. You go, Sonic! Stick by your convictions as you negotiate your 5th MEL on a dark and stormy night.

36th St, it's 36th St.

Huell 10-13-2020 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 3144893)
36th St, it's 36th St.

NW 36th street

GogglesPisano 10-13-2020 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 3144893)
36th St, it's 36th St.

Sorry. 30th St is where the ______________________ work.

(Best answers only)

butthert 10-13-2020 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by ElCaribe (Post 3144783)
Just don’t do what all the other Californians fleeing the state are doing: voting the same idiots into government that ruined California.

Amen to that

Huell 10-13-2020 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 3144905)
Sorry. 30th St is where the ______________________ work.

(Best answers only)

... hookers that service the non union pilots ...

badflaps 10-13-2020 05:30 PM

I think that part of NW 30 St. is probably a taxi way, so I'm going to say "Couping" Dade cops.

GogglesPisano 10-13-2020 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Huell (Post 3144920)
... hookers that service the non union pilots ...

Comedic Gold.

But for the sake of Sonic, they’re non-union hookers.

BobbyLeeSwagger 10-13-2020 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by ElCaribe (Post 3144783)
Just don’t do what all the other Californians fleeing the state are doing: voting the same idiots into government that ruined California.

Ha I get that a lot. Norcal is a much different place than when I was growing up before the tech boom. My high school-educated parents were actually home owners in what is now an ultra rich east bay suburb, believe it or not. Anyway, just tired of closed parks, majors fires every year, taxes, rolling power outages, and the growing homeless problem. California seems like it's self destructing, too bad because it's home and a beautiful state.

For now I'm enjoying a breath of fresh air and the sight of green grass with large, open, and clean parks for my toddler-- he couldn't be happier.

herewego 10-13-2020 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3144950)
Ha I get that a lot. Norcal is a much different place than when I was growing up before the tech boom. My high school-educated parents were actually home owners in what is now an ultra rich east bay suburb, believe it or not. Anyway, just tired of closed parks, majors fires every year, taxes, rolling power outages, and the growing homeless problem. California seems like it's self destructing, too bad because it's home and a beautiful state.

For now I'm enjoying a breath of fresh air and the sight of green grass with large, open, and clean parks for my toddler-- he couldn't be happier.

SO you are going to vote in the same idiots to government whose policies brought you the beautiful weather and beaches to California, into Montana, but because it's Montana the other policies they enacted that caused the closed parks, majors fires every year, taxes, rolling power outages, and the growing homeless problem will be left behind?
Enjoy that green grass and open parks while they last.

BobbyLeeSwagger 10-13-2020 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by herewego (Post 3144975)
SO you are going to vote in the same idiots to government whose policies brought you the beautiful weather and beaches to California, into Montana, but because it's Montana the other policies they enacted that caused the closed parks, majors fires every year, taxes, rolling power outages, and the growing homeless problem will be left behind?
Enjoy that green grass and open parks while they last.


Who said anything about beaches? I hate the beach! I'm not voting for any politicians or policies that bring beaches to my city!

BobZ 10-13-2020 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by Huell (Post 3144920)
... hookers that service the non union pilots ...

Sex workers. The only union shop where as you move along the longevity table the rate goes down. 😁

Seneca Pilot 10-13-2020 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by BobZ (Post 3144993)
Sex workers. The only union shop where as you move along the longevity table the rate goes down. 😁

I am not going to get into the mechanics as this is a family forum, but as teeth fall out the risk of certain injuries goes down and that can command a premium.
:eek:


Edit: I have no personal knowledge of this dynamic, of course.

atooraya 10-13-2020 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by bobbyleeswagger (Post 3144987)
who said anything about beaches? I hate the beach! I'm not voting for any politicians or policies that bring beaches to my city!

keep america beach free again!

paulcg77 10-13-2020 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by atooraya (Post 3145034)
keep america beach free again!

Say NO to beaches. Especially unionized beaches...

BobbyLeeSwagger 10-14-2020 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by atooraya (Post 3145034)
keep america beach free again!

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Nvrgofullretard 10-14-2020 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 3144932)
Comedic Gold.

But for the sake of Sonic, they’re non-union hookers.

ya and you can’t force them to wear the big admiral hat. I wish they would just vote it one and get a proper contract

atooraya 10-14-2020 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3145134)

Id be careful with that!! Don’t want to be a coastal elite with those types of water borders!

herewego 10-14-2020 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3144987)
Who said anything about beaches? I hate the beach! I'm not voting for any politicians or policies that bring beaches to my city!


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3145134)

That's about the quickest flip flop I've ever seen.
​​​​​​​ But I guess it's a good flip flop cause the beaches are pretty nice.

BobbyLeeSwagger 10-14-2020 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by herewego (Post 3145185)
That's about the quickest flip flop I've ever seen.
But I guess it's a good flip flop cause the beaches are pretty nice.

​​​​​​​Lol I realized that after haha. That's a meme fail in my book- apologies

TransWorld 10-14-2020 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3144618)
So true, recently left Cali with family and the prices were very high and inventory very low on uhaul trucks. Had to get the truck and trailer at separate locations... They said they've been inundated with one way reservations leaving the state. When I arrived at our destination, there was no room for our truck and they had to move me to another location to drop off. Crazy

Enjoying open parks and nice people, I feel like I just came to the United States of America after leaving california lol

Welcome to the USA.

Now, I wonder if U-Haul is hiring drivers to backhaul all those empty trucks and trailers. Could be a good employment market.

FXLAX 10-14-2020 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by velosnow (Post 3144739)
I assume you've never been a part of an organizing effort? It's not like you can just flip the switch and voila! Union. Nope.

Unionizing in a southern state with millions of dollars in Boeing's war chest along with hiring professional union busting firms? Good luck with that. From the 2017 organizing effort;

"If they get a foothold in a plant that size, that may help in efforts to expand beyond that location," South Carolina Manufacturers Alliance president Lewis Gossett said before the vote. "I don’t know a single business person that wants a union to be successful there."

The alliance, an industry coalition in Columbia, ran television spots opposing the union on local stations in the weeks before the vote, including during the Super Bowl. Residents say TV, radio and billboard advertising has been ubiquitous.

Labor's weakness in South Carolina is partly due to intense opposition from local politicians. Former governor Nikki Haley, now Trump's ambassador to the United Nations, said she opposed firms with unionized labor opening facilities in her state, even though new factories would presumably mean more work for her constituents."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...have-a-chance/


It seems interesting but isn’t it harder to unionize under the RLA as opposed to the NRLA? We see airlines like SWA and AA based in a southern right to work state yet are probable the most heavily unionized. Then there is Delta and FedEx who only have one union. UPS, which is a hybrid and also a southern company is heavily unionized. But there is also Skywest (which is in a red state) that is completely non-union, and not for the lack of trying. Seems like a mixed bag.

rickair7777 10-14-2020 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by FXLAX (Post 3145428)
It seems interesting but isn’t it harder to unionize under the RLA as opposed to the NRLA? We see airlines like SWA and AA based in a southern right to work state yet are probable the most heavily unionized. Then there is Delta and FedEx who only have one union. UPS, which is a hybrid and also a southern company is heavily unionized. But there is also Skywest (which is in a red state) that is completely non-union, and not for the lack of trying. Seems like a mixed bag.


Everything union in the airlines is under RLA, which is federal, so the state has nothing too do with it at least as far as inter state workers are concerned. Not sure about local employee, gate agents, etc.

Red Forman 10-15-2020 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by atooraya (Post 3144793)
I hear North Charleston is a utopian dream!

A lot better than the ****hole that is Seattle!

JamesNoBrakes 10-15-2020 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Forman (Post 3145697)
A lot better than the ****hole that is Seattle!

I mean, I guess if you want to live in downtown Seattle in the square or something, with the homeless people. I don't know of a major city that isn't a ****hole to live in certain areas though.

Grumpyaviator 10-15-2020 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3144768)
I’d don’t think that it is any one thing that drives businesses to relocate, but a combination of things. A unionized workforce or slightly higher tax structure alone won’t do it, but when you combine regulatory hurdles with higher taxes and labor cost, businesses are going to go to where the grass is greener. You are right, these things aren’t mutually exclusive, but combined they do shape corporate behavior and employees can find themselves priced out of the market when existing companies leave, and new ones settle elsewhere. This decision could also be about simple logistics as well. Being that the days of building a plane from scratch in SEA are long gone, it could be that it is just easier to ship and assemble the various pieces parts in another facility.

bingo, all of that adds up to the aggregate cost of doing business. Seattle finally brought Boeing to the tipping point.

Grumpyaviator 10-15-2020 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3145220)
Welcome to the USA.

Now, I wonder if U-Haul is hiring drivers to backhaul all those empty trucks and trailers. Could be a good employment market.

I think Antifa is doing it for them.

at6d 10-15-2020 01:54 PM

I just spent several vacation days in CHS. I’d spent my money there vs SEA any day. I even supported our rotorhead fellow aviators and bought an R-44 ride over the town. Nice people, excellent food, good accommodations, and didn’t see a single Antifa Fascist anywhere, nor did I see anyone s@%t in the street.

Grumpyaviator 10-15-2020 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3145795)
I just spent several vacation days in CHS. I’d spent my money there vs SEA any day. I even supported our rotorhead fellow aviators and bought an R-44 ride over the town. Nice people, excellent food, good accommodations, and didn’t see a single Antifa Fascist anywhere, nor did I see anyone s@%t in the street.

CHS is an amazing town. Lots of history and I recommend some of the off-the-wall tours. The old downtown is a great place to spend the day.

FXLAX 10-15-2020 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3145451)
Everything union in the airlines is under RLA, which is federal, so the state has nothing too do with it at least as far as inter state workers are concerned. Not sure about local employee, gate agents, etc.


That’s was part of my point. Airlines are harder to unionize because of the RLA. Whereas Boeing, even in a right to work state, would be easier to unionize under the NRLA.

METO Guido 10-15-2020 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3144781)
No one should be forced to join a union to get or keep a job, or be forced to pay for a union if they are not a member. And no company should be forced to accept a union on their property.

You know what? You're right. That's what Henry Ford, Walt Disney and Eddie Rickenbacker thought. Bezos and Zuckerberg, Mao Zedong. Dominant interest runs smack into individual freedom every time. Some pawns just live better than others. Ideals are fine, top off the rice bowl first.

For you saps luv Virginia Gardens as much as I do, try Ping House. 5431 NW 36th St. just E of Curtiss Parkway. Egg foo young or chop suey, $10. Portions enough, anything less than JT3D appetites slurp down both lunch & dinner. Say hola for Meto.

Seneca Pilot 10-15-2020 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by Gilligan13 (Post 3145908)
No Anti FA just systemic racism in NC but will just sweep that under the rug.


I guess geography isn't your strong suit.

Gilligan13 10-15-2020 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot (Post 3145911)
I guess geography isn't your strong suit.

Whoops, my bad

TransWorld 10-15-2020 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 3145753)
I think Antifa is doing it for them.

I think they are flying.

BobZ 10-16-2020 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Gilligan13 (Post 3145912)
Whoops, my bad

Thats ok.....Little Buddy. 😆

Treptow 10-18-2020 09:22 AM

Seattle has dug themselves into a cesspool with a poor government decisions.
Boings upper (so called) management decimated every aspect of aircraft operations.

It’s time to let a free market run its course.
Let a new company with values, ideas and ethics to boost the aviation industry.

firefighterplt 10-18-2020 10:44 AM

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-...e-gif-16502320

-Boeing

DarkSideMoon 10-18-2020 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by butthert (Post 3144782)
Well those “low skilled“ workers will enjoy a clean and safe downtown Charleston without having to be the victim of Chaz or stepping in some homeless person’s ****.
I’d say they are getting a good deal moving to a red state.
Seems to be a pattern recently 🤔

With the non-union wages they’re getting paid I doubt they’re living in downtown Charleston...

Grumpyaviator 10-18-2020 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 3146809)
With the non-union wages they’re getting paid I doubt they’re living in downtown Charleston...

I don’t think union blue collar wages will get you there either.


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