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Old 01-28-2021, 03:15 AM
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Not pretty year.

2020 Earnings (loss)

AA

4Q (2.2B)

2020 (8.9B)

DL

4Q (755m)

2020 (12.39B)

UAL

4Q (1.9B)

2020 (7.07B)

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I forgot.

Are brackets good or bad?

Red is bad for sure.
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Originally Posted by ROFF View Post
I forgot.

Are brackets good or bad?

Red is bad for sure.
Safe to assume those are losses. Not sure on the others, but DL says 3Q 2021 miiiiight turn a profit though of course would still be a loss for the year as a whole I'd expect. I'll believe a profitable quarter when I see it, but hopefully we're all starting to put the bad times behind us.
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Originally Posted by ROFF View Post
I forgot.

Are brackets good or bad?

Red is bad for sure.
Brackets are negative, just like RED is.
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Kind of lost in the earnings numbers is the fact that not only does SWA have about $13Bn in cash on hand, if they paid back all the loans they'd STILL have around $3Bn in cash.

During the earnings call they noted that as other airlines aggressively shrink, SWA's insourcing business model means they will lose CASM advantage. Contractors can be downsized far more quickly than full time employees of the company, so during a rapidly shrinking environment SWA's cost advantages decrease. The upside however is that when things pick back up, SWA will be first out of the gate to take advantage of improving conditions and would also then see cost advantages come back.
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik View Post
Not pretty year.

2020 Earnings (loss)

AA

4Q (2.2B)

2020 (8.9B)

DL

4Q (755m)

2020 (12.39B)

UAL

4Q (1.9B)

2020 (7.07B)
The only airline that doesn't fly the MAX lost more in 2020 than Boeing.
BA
4Q (8.4B)
2020 (11.9B)
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The only airline that doesn't fly the MAX lost more in 2020 than Boeing.
BA
4Q (8.4B)
2020 (11.9B)
Delta lost so much because of their investments in foreign airlines that went bankrupt, IRCC.
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Delta lost so much because of their investments in foreign airlines that went bankrupt, IRCC.
I was curious. Deltas full year loses are so massive and yet their Q4 numbers weren't so bad. At least compared to UALs Q4
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4Q20 Average Daily Cash Burn:

Delta: $12M
Southwest: $12M
American: $30M
United: $33M
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