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Old 03-30-2022, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Forman View Post
Say the same thing about blacks.
That would be a completely asinine, ridiculous statement. Todd from Breaking Bad doesn’t look even a little bit black!
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Old 03-30-2022, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot View Post
I haven’t ever heard it being illegal to record in a public place. Have you?
If you mean audio recording, yes in many jurisdictions it's illegal to record without the consent or knowledge of some or all parties. That applies in public or private, unless the speaker is speaking publicly. If two people are having a private conversation in a public park, they still typically have an expectation of not being recorded. Details vary by jurisdiction.

Video is less restricted, but if it includes audio (or if the video somehow discloses the conversation) then the (typically more restrictive) rules for audio apply.
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Old 03-31-2022, 07:50 AM
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If this was a Spirit pilot nobody would be shocked, it wouldn’t even make the papers. It wouldn’t have been recorded either as that’s typical cabin behavior on a flight operated by good ole Spirit Airlines.
Classy. I thought this thread was about the reprehensible actions of a degenerate DELTA pilot. How about you stay on target instead of making wild generalizations and bashing your peers.
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Old 03-31-2022, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW View Post
Classy. I thought this thread was about the reprehensible actions of a degenerate DELTA pilot. How about you stay on target instead of making wild generalizations and bashing your peers.
The only thing relevant about where he works is that he'll have to be held accountable by that company. It doesn't matter if it's a Delta, Mesa, or Cape Air Pilot. That behavior is disturbing and disrespectful.
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Old 03-31-2022, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
If you mean audio recording, yes in many jurisdictions it's illegal to record without the consent or knowledge of some or all parties. That applies in public or private, unless the speaker is speaking publicly. If two people are having a private conversation in a public park, they still typically have an expectation of not being recorded. Details vary by jurisdiction.

Video is less restricted, but if it includes audio (or if the video somehow discloses the conversation) then the (typically more restrictive) rules for audio apply.
respectfully Rick your wrong. I enjoyed talking with you in New York I believe at a prior gig. Bad cops make up fake laws about recording them etc. it’s easy to conflate situations but it is never illegal to record people in a public place. Some states vary with who needs to know if there is secret recording. Side point, are ring security cams that also record people walking on the sidewalk illegal? Ashley: Can you tell us what’s allowed? Can we actually record in public?

Jennifer Ellis: Hard rules from a lawyer. Lawyers will never give you hard rules because the answer always is, “it depends on the specific situation.” Of course we’re talking about the United States, that’s the first thing I need to say, and the second thing I need to say is when you deal with state law, the laws vary greatly across the country, and then we have federal law, as well. Generally speaking, though, when you are in public, it is legal to record someone, video record or audio record, as long as they don’t have what is called, “an expectation of privacy,” or rather a reasonable expectation of privacy. And generally in public, you do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy and so you can record people.
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Old 03-31-2022, 08:42 AM
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Great article once you get past the federal wiretapping part. https://laws101.com/recording-me-without-my-permission/
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Old 03-31-2022, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FliesInSoup View Post
Didn't the "citizen journalist" record the same ass and same legs as perv #1? Is the content of that video any less pervy? Maybe this perv #2 was just getting in on the action and got busted, then claimed "well, I was just documenting that guy's behavior for future prosecution/execution". Maybe perv #1 was actually trying to capture someone else's bad behavior not seen on camera and he is really the hero and the other two are the actual scumbags.

A terrible appearance in any case. Give the guy his day in court if it comes to it. It may well be what it appears to be.
LOL. Never thought of it that way.

Arguably much worse, because it was uploaded to Twitter for mass viewing. Plus a good chance that if the uploader of the video reached out to the airline, discovery would disclose their name for any civil lawsuits filed.

No one would’ve known about this if the concerned party just contacted the airline directly.
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Old 03-31-2022, 08:50 AM
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Wow! Great legs! I would have taken pics and video as well in uniform or not.
And now we know why you call yourself the “Whackmaster”. I’m pretty sure that cappy Delta sicko at the very least will never ride on FAL again. And most likely will wind up at an ACMI lecturing his fellow crew members on the fact that he was just such an awesome pilot he couldn’t stay at a place like Delta.
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Old 03-31-2022, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux View Post
LOL. Never thought of it that way.

Arguably much worse, because it was uploaded to Twitter for mass viewing. Plus a good chance that if the uploader of the video reached out to the airline, discovery would disclose their name for any civil lawsuits filed.

No one would’ve known about this if the concerned party just contacted the airline directly.
and if nobody knows, things get hidden and people aren’t held accountable for reprehensible behavior. The good old boys’ club is dying a well-deserved death.
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Old 03-31-2022, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by FliesInSoup View Post
Didn't the "citizen journalist" record the same ass and same legs as perv #1? Is the content of that video any less pervy? Maybe this perv #2 was just getting in on the action and got busted, then claimed "well, I was just documenting that guy's behavior for future prosecution/execution". Maybe perv #1 was actually trying to capture someone else's bad behavior not seen on camera and he is really the hero and the other two are the actual scumbags.

A terrible appearance in any case. Give the guy his day in court if it comes to it. It may well be what it appears to be.

Oh, on a related note, there's a Company poster of a FA showing her ass and legs in uniform posted up in our Crew Room. I think it's sexist and looks ridiculous - I'm probably wrong though.
I take your point on the possiblity that the passenger filming the pilot could also have been a perv (sure, anything is possible), but I'm skeptical about the possibility that pilot perv #1 could have been trying to catch someone else doing the same thing. If he were, why would he have to hide it behind his Kindle, and why the devious smirk? Also, given where his device was pointing, I'm doubting there's anyone else in the frame besides the FA. Saying that he needs his day in court is fair, but the evidence also seems pretty self explanatory.
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