First available upgrade times at majors?
02-15-2023, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Go Cards go
Based on the January bid, most junior awarded and not yet trained is a 1998 hire.
02-15-2023, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
fwiw that person hired in 1998 was former NW. there are 2000 DL hires who will be in the left seat of the same category (767-400 NYC)
02-15-2023, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Lewbronski
So, does that mean there are more junior guys at DL holding true wide body captain?
2000 as in the year. Mergers complicated doing things by DOH, since they do not equate the same relative seniority.
02-15-2023, 11:19 AM
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5.5 years to hold A330 on our last bid at Hawaiian. It’ll go more junior as we take more 787 deliveries and 330s for Amazon. It’ll probably take 4-6 months to get the call for sim training as we are severely backlogged. 6 yr pay will be $374/hr. At year 12 those pilots will be at $454/hr
02-15-2023, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr
Yikes! This implies that wide body FO is the primary attraction to a pax airline with wide body aircraft. That and the relative seniority it confers to guys staying NB. Only being able to hold the left seat WB in the final few years of your career is kind of depressing.
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02-15-2023, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
2000 as in the year. Mergers complicated doing things by DOH, since they do not equate the same relative seniority.
02-16-2023, 08:17 AM
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Junior true widebody Captain (777/787) at UAL has now pushed down to about #5,200 seniority...that number is static and only updated in July each year so with retirements we are probably talking about someone closer to 5,000 numbers from the top. This is at least 1,600 numbers more junior than when I started 7 years ago and it figures to keep dropping with 787 deliveries in '23.
02-16-2023, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by bkC130
Junior true widebody Captain (777/787) at UAL has now pushed down to about #5,200 seniority...that number is static and only updated in July each year so with retirements we are probably talking about someone closer to 5,000 numbers from the top. This is at least 1,600 numbers more junior than when I started 7 years ago and it figures to keep dropping with 787 deliveries in '23.
02-16-2023, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover
what yr hire would that be?
The specific example of 5200 is SFO 777. Other fleets/domiciles are more senior.
02-16-2023, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover
what yr hire would that be?
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