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Grumpyaviator 05-09-2023 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Gspeed (Post 3634496)
I too prefer the 2008 style of unregulated catastrophe. The weak and poor get what they deserve, amirite?

absolutely

vaksedtothemax 05-09-2023 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Gspeed (Post 3634496)
I too prefer the 2008 style of unregulated catastrophe. The weak and poor get what they deserve, amirite?

Interestingly, the 2nd and 3rd largest bank failures in history just occurred these last few months, how's that regulatory environment working out?

2008 happened because of faulty loans and a faulty credit rating agency that was allowed to capitalize on whatever credit score they chose to dole out for a new financial instrument called a credit default swap. (often AAA scores for property bundles that had some good loans and a bunch of over extended terrible loans)

Anyone who was dumb enough to take out a loan for $800k in CA and then put in a pool with their equity gains that happened a month after they bought on a 5/1 arm, all the while earning $50k as a tire service center employee, yeah pretty much should have to accept the consequences without the more intelligent purchasers bailing them out. I know I was taught about financials in school, as well as to not do drugs. Not my fault if others didn't listen.

A-B=C

A is your income,
B are your expenses
C is what's left over and that has to be positive to survive.

It doesn't get much simpler than that.

Rhdicjkwso 05-09-2023 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Gspeed (Post 3634496)
I too prefer the 2008 style of unregulated catastrophe. The weak and poor get what they deserve, amirite?

Forcing airlines to pay out when things go wrong isn’t remotely comparable to a global financial crisis.

This will just negatively effect middle and upper class travelers trying to go to Orlando in the name of equity.

hoover 05-09-2023 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3634419)
Well they're winding down Spirit.

meaning spirit isnt flying as many flights?
Because of up coming merger?
I havent been following that lately

Gspeed 05-09-2023 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Rhdicjkwso (Post 3634612)
Forcing airlines to pay out when things go wrong isn’t remotely comparable to a global financial crisis.

This will just negatively affect middle and upper class travelers trying to go to Orlando in the name of equity.

It was aimed at his ridiculous insinuation about regulations being bad. It’s super ironic when I hear an airline pilot make a comment like that while they then go takeoff in an airplane with near-guaranteed performance requirements and capabilities due to……regulations.

Most here would’ve been dead long ago without them.

Bestglide 05-09-2023 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Gspeed (Post 3634637)
It was aimed at his ridiculous insinuation about regulations being bad. It’s super ironic when I hear an airline pilot make a comment like that while they then go takeoff in an airplane with near-guaranteed performance requirements and capabilities due to……regulations.

Most here would’ve been dead long ago without them.

Apples to Oranges my lefty friend…huge differences here….

Gspeed 05-09-2023 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by Bestglide (Post 3634642)
Apples to Oranges my lefty friend…huge differences here….

Not at all, my friend. A lack of guardrails (regulations) helped to create the 2008 meltdown. Implying that regulations are inherently bad, a misguided right wing talking point, is dumb. My friend.

Rhdicjkwso 05-09-2023 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Gspeed (Post 3634637)
It was aimed at his ridiculous insinuation about regulations being bad. It’s super ironic when I hear an airline pilot make a comment like that while they then go takeoff in an airplane with near-guaranteed performance requirements and capabilities due to……regulations.

Most here would’ve been dead long ago without them.

We all agree there needs to be regulations that’s not what we are talking about. Needless and excessive regulations on the other hand….

vaksedtothemax 05-09-2023 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by Rhdicjkwso (Post 3634654)
We all agree there needs to be regulations that’s not what we are talking about. Needless and excessive regulations on the other hand….

100%


The axe in the cockpit yet still having to get "randomed" 8 outta 10 times.. comes to mind. Unless the point of security is to prevent drug trafficking, which last I checked wasn't what TSA was for.

vaksedtothemax 05-09-2023 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by Gspeed (Post 3634644)
Not at all, my friend. A lack of guardrails (regulations) helped to create the 2008 meltdown. Implying that regulations are inherently bad, a misguided right wing talking point, is dumb. My friend.

It took Obama more than 6 years before things even came close to looking like a turnaround, with near zero interest rates (artificial fiscal prosperity). How are we doing with Joe in there the last 2.5 yrs. Seems things are just peachy right? I know I feel united with his Ultra-MAGA white supremacy talk. I'll take the 2016-March 2020 Orange Man Bad period. Things sure seemed pretty darn good.


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