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SonicFlyer 06-24-2023 06:22 PM

FAA attacks Points Guy for blaming delays on:
 
https://viewfromthewing.com/the-faa-...irline-delays/

mrfishy 06-24-2023 07:11 PM


flight delays are most often because of weather.
because you totally shut down airports for no reason when there are thunderstorms dozens of miles from the actual airport, don't allow aircraft to takeoff towards airports that are shutdown due to weather even though the aircraft wont be there for hours, are completely unable to come up with new routes that simply go around the storm because it doesn't go through the arrival corridor, and when you do come up with a new route it takes you a hundred miles out of the way for no reason, or even better it took you so long to come up with a new route by the time you start giving it to people the weather moved to exactly where the new route is, or departure/approach is so overwhelmed with weather deviations they limit the amount of arrivals and departures so perhaps having better staffing would solve that problem so the tracons aren't so overloaded, and maybe if the weather is so bad we limit military airspace so more airspace is available to avoid weather

Lifeson2112 06-24-2023 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by mrfishy (Post 3655760)
maybe if the weather is so bad we limit military airspace so more airspace is available to avoid weather

well they already do that but also: why is civilian traffic more important than military airspace use?

Cyio 06-25-2023 02:56 AM


Originally Posted by Lifeson2112 (Post 3655787)
well they already do that but also: why is civilian traffic more important than military airspace use?

I don’t think it’s a question of more important but at times it can be better managed.

sailingfun 06-25-2023 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by mrfishy (Post 3655760)
because you totally shut down airports for no reason when there are thunderstorms dozens of miles from the actual airport, don't allow aircraft to takeoff towards airports that are shutdown due to weather even though the aircraft wont be there for hours, are completely unable to come up with new routes that simply go around the storm because it doesn't go through the arrival corridor, and when you do come up with a new route it takes you a hundred miles out of the way for no reason, or even better it took you so long to come up with a new route by the time you start giving it to people the weather moved to exactly where the new route is, or departure/approach is so overwhelmed with weather deviations they limit the amount of arrivals and departures so perhaps having better staffing would solve that problem so the tracons aren't so overloaded, and maybe if the weather is so bad we limit military airspace so more airspace is available to avoid weather

They limit military airspace all the time when needed due to weather issues.

mrfishy 06-25-2023 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3655854)
They limit military airspace all the time when needed due to weather issues.

Guess I've never seen that but glad to know they have that ability

Agent62 06-25-2023 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by Lifeson2112 (Post 3655787)
well they already do that but also: why is civilian traffic more important than military airspace use?


​​​​​​Because the military is just burning tax payer dollars flying in circles out there in the practice area and during a weather event they can probably pause for half a day.

NeverHome 06-25-2023 07:59 AM

Not to sound like a Richard, but my own personal belief is the regionals have a hand to play in this too. They have increased congestion by the numbers of flights in and out of some of the busiest airspace in the country. That’s not a swipe at the pilots, they are just doing the best job when they can. But how much of the lift for the mainline is regional flying? And what busy airspace are they flying in? Not saying it’s the biggest reason for delays, but they certainly add to the saturation. I suspect due to the shortage of pilots at the regionals is probably helping to alleviate this, but in terms of airspace efficiency (passengers on a plane per unit airspace) it’s not great. Just my $.02 of course.

Lifeson2112 06-25-2023 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Agent62 (Post 3655917)
​​​​​​Because the military is just burning tax payer dollars flying in circles out there in the practice area and during a weather event they can probably pause for half a day.

I thought it’s airline pilots who say: “there’s no mission”. Why don’t we take a pause then?

And yeah sure it’s just flying in circles lol

OOfff 06-25-2023 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by NeverHome (Post 3655921)
Not to sound like a Richard, but my own personal belief is the regionals have a hand to play in this too. They have increased congestion by the numbers of flights in and out of some of the busiest airspace in the country. That’s not a swipe at the pilots, they are just doing the best job when they can. But how much of the lift for the mainline is regional flying? And what busy airspace are they flying in? Not saying it’s the biggest reason for delays, but they certainly add to the saturation. I suspect due to the shortage of pilots at the regionals is probably helping to alleviate this, but in terms of airspace efficiency (passengers on a plane per unit airspace) it’s not great. Just my $.02 of course.

there are fewer RJs and fewer RJ flights now than when traffic flows were better.


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