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TransWorld 11-19-2023 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3726116)
30 astronauts were selected for Apollo. Afterr killing the Apollo 1 crew without their ever leaving the launch pad the program had several mission failures (Apollo 13 for instance) but no further fatalities. Three dead out of 30Apollo astronauts was a 10% mortality. Not as bad odds as playing Russian roulette even once, but even so...

I do not recall any other mission failures other than Apollo 13. Can you name any specific ones?

I did not read about them in the textbooks. I remember watching them.

captjns 11-20-2023 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3726276)
The plan is to put women on the moon or anyone that’s not a white man. Their mission goals actually say something along those lines.

Feeling a bit replaced? Do ya?

ThumbsUp 11-20-2023 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3726284)
I do not recall any other mission failures other than Apollo 13. Can you name any specific ones?

I did not read about them in the textbooks. I remember watching them.

You don’t remember them burning on the launchpad? Sad stuff.

PSU Flyer 11-20-2023 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3726349)
You don’t remember them burning on the launchpad? Sad stuff.

The original post said several failures AFTER Apollo 1.

ThumbsUp 11-20-2023 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by PSU Flyer (Post 3726354)
The original post said several failures AFTER Apollo 1.


Totally missed the original.

Gone Flying 11-20-2023 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3726284)
I do not recall any other mission failures other than Apollo 13. Can you name any specific ones?

I did not read about them in the textbooks. I remember watching them.

11 almost was (several times)

- the computer started throwing error codes on decent that had not been simulated before. they were about to abort when one of the interns happened to know what they were from memory. Apparently as part of a “haze the new guy” ritual was they made this intern memorize all the computer error codes and he was able to give that info in real time.

-they almost had to abort the landing due to fuel. they landed 25 seconds above their abort fuel

- they almost got stuck on the moon. When re entering the lunar module they damaged the circuit breaker that armed the accent rocket. When troubleshooting they figured out the tip of their pen fit in the slot where the breaker was and were able to arm the rocket that way.

TransWorld 11-20-2023 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3726421)
11 almost was (several times)

- the computer started throwing error codes on decent that had not been simulated before. they were about to abort when one of the interns happened to know what they were from memory. Apparently as part of a “haze the new guy” ritual was they made this intern memorize all the computer error codes and he was able to give that info in real time.

-they almost had to abort the landing due to fuel. they landed 25 seconds above their abort fuel

- they almost got stuck on the moon. When re entering the lunar module they damaged the circuit breaker that armed the accent rocket. When troubleshooting they figured out the tip of their pen fit in the slot where the breaker was and were able to arm the rocket that way.

How many times does autopilot do strange things, and a pilot kicks it into manual and does a safe maneuver? Sounds like common.

Excargodog 11-20-2023 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3726284)
I do not recall any other mission failures other than Apollo 13. Can you name any specific ones?

I did not read about them in the textbooks. I remember watching them.

The Apollo 1 crew was less than a success. Apollo 8 was originally supposed to be a test of the LM in Earth orbit, but delays in testing of the LM precluded that, but it was politically decided to launch it into a lunar orbit to beat the Russians in doing so. Apollo 12 was hit by lightning after takeoff, ruining their telemetry until they coukd figure out the problem and switch to an aux system. On the same mission Alan Bean accidentally pointed the TV camera directly at the Sun, frying its circuitry and limiting the lunar videos taken - perhaps one reason that few remember Apollo 12.

Sliceback 11-20-2023 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3726421)
11 almost was (several times)

- the computer started throwing error codes on decent that had not been simulated before. they were about to abort when one of the interns happened to know what they were from memory. Apparently as part of a “haze the new guy” ritual was they made this intern memorize all the computer error codes and he was able to give that info in real time.

It was an engineer who'd worked in the simulator trying to trigger every code/failure they could think of. They triggered 1201/1202 faults and were told to write down every fault code there was. They put a laminated chart of the fault codes under the glass at a console. Second link below has his first hand account of what occurred.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lanceeliot/2019/07/16/apollo-11s-infamous-landing-error-code-1202-offers-earthly-lessons-for-self-driving-cars/?sh=6b07a2f034bc

http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-092016a-obituary-jack-garman-apollo11.html

Gone Flying 11-20-2023 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 3726479)
It was an engineer who'd worked in the simulator trying to trigger every code/failure they could think of. They triggered 1201/1202 faults and were told to write down every fault code there was. They put a laminated chart of the fault codes under the glass at a console. Second link below has his first hand account of what occurred.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lanceeliot/2019/07/16/apollo-11s-infamous-landing-error-code-1202-offers-earthly-lessons-for-self-driving-cars/?sh=6b07a2f034bc

http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-092016a-obituary-jack-garman-apollo11.html

well then I stand corrected. I thought I had read the intern thing in one of the books on the subject.


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