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tom11011 04-22-2024 04:55 PM

Airplane Crash Axe
 
Is anyone aware of any circumstance where a commercial airliners crash axe was used for any reason? In all my years of flying I cannot recall this as a topic of discussion.

rickair7777 04-22-2024 05:00 PM

Let's not go down an SSI rabit-hole.

SaintNick 04-22-2024 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3795415)
Let's not go down an SSI rabit-hole.

not really ssi when it is clearly stated necessary by the faa

tom11011 04-22-2024 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3795415)
Let's not go down an SSI rabit-hole.

Agreed let’s keep it to relevant past stories from the news.

John Carr 04-22-2024 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3795411)
Is anyone aware of any circumstance where a commercial airliners crash axe was used for any reason? In all my years of flying I cannot recall this as a topic of discussion.

It made the news, naturally given the date/era.

I heard later that the ONLY reason the IRO/RFO/Bunkie/Scribe DIDN'T use the sharp end was he was afraid of the back swing and the proximity to the CA's head.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2002/...ckpit-crasher/

rickair7777 04-22-2024 05:51 PM

It's intended for getting into panels for fire-fighting. It probably won't break cockpit windows, too many layers and too tough. It will probably bounce back and hit you in the head if you try.

JohnBurke 04-22-2024 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3795411)
Is anyone aware of any circumstance where a commercial airliners crash axe was used for any reason? In all my years of flying I cannot recall this as a topic of discussion.

I am.

Following a crash.

trip 04-22-2024 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3795411)
Is anyone aware of any circumstance where a commercial airliners crash axe was used for any reason? In all my years of flying I cannot recall this as a topic of discussion.

YES.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlant...nes_Flight_529

The fire started about one minute after impact, and an oxygen bottle behind the first officer's seat leaked, contributing to the strength of the fire. Despite a dislocated shoulder, First Officer Warmerdam used the cockpit fire axe to cut through the thick cockpit glass. Surviving passenger David McCorkell and Carroll County Sheriff Deputy Guy Pope later assisted by pulling the axe out of the cockpit through the hole Warmerdam had created and struck the glass from the outside to increase the size of the hole and help Warmerdam escape.

checkgear 04-22-2024 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3795432)
It's intended for getting into panels for fire-fighting. It probably won't break cockpit windows, too many layers and too tough. It will probably bounce back and hit you in the head if you try.

Boy would I like to see some mythbuster type person try that. For science…

nene 04-22-2024 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3795411)
Is anyone aware of any circumstance where a commercial airliners crash axe was used for any reason? In all my years of flying I cannot recall this as a topic of discussion.

There is a story (precovid) years ago on a A330 flt across the pond, to help free an overly large lady who'd fallen and wedged herself between the loo and the door where the relief FO tried (unsuccessfully according to the story) to break the hinges with the axe. Story goes after a few whacks and requisite damage, word came over the ACARS from MX how to remove the hinge pins to free her.


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