Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3813190)

Interesting. At my airline it’s not required by the FOM (anymore), but pretty much all FA’s check in.

My only pet peeve about that is, if you are going to check in, don’t be like the ones who essentially throw their boarding pass on the center console, interrupt the conversation/brief, and announce “I’m your jumpseater”.

Etiquette and courtesy are not hard, and go a long way.

Originally Posted by DenVa (Post 3813236)

That would be a nice ASAP close out. “You’re a big boy, deal with it better.”

task interruption has been a hot topic in the past. It’s just funny to me that checking ID’s of people in the back is seen as necessary when we are supposed to be focusing on things up front. It just adds to the multiple things that can break a preflight pattern.

Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3813282)

That sounds like something you should bring up to your management and hope they change the FOM. Until they do, you really have two choices - comply with the FOM, or don't comply with the FOM. It's really that simple. And if I get interrupted, I start the process over, and I don't release the brakes until I'm satisfied that all preflight checks have been completed, and if it's a minute or five late, it is what it is. It's really just that simple.



At SWA, OAL FA's are considered nonrevs because they cannot occupy an actual jumpseat and ergo do not need to check in with the captain. Conversely, we do offer cabin jumpseat to all SWA employees - not just flight attendants, but that literally means that they can sit in an unoccupied FA jumpseat. We offer 1 of those on the -700 and 2 on -800 and MAX 8. People who travel on cabin jumpseat pass are required to check in with the captain, and usually it's a quick hello, show an ID, and you're done. Namely because you're considered an additional crew member. Same with pilots even if you're sitting in the back.

The problem is that the authorization which is used to allow jumpseating is under the pretext that you're considered an additional crew member, and you accept those responsibilities.

Let me give you an extreme example. Suppose you're a pilot, not wearing a uniform, you're enjoying time off and are going someplace fun and you have a seat in the back:

1. If you are on a jumpseat pass, you are considered an additional crew, so you cannot drink alcohol. If you do, you can get terminated. Supposedly, we've had a pilot face termination over this.

2. If you're on a pure nonrev pass, feel free to enjoy the full bar.

How the company chooses to address these is on them... I just try to protect my multimillion dollar career by abiding with what's in the book, and if it takes me a minute longer because I got interrupted by a jumpseat request, so be it.

Originally Posted by captjns (Post 3811825)

Negative! I'm the passenger, and he's an employee empowered to provide a service without provocation. He could have extended a hand and introduced himself. But no... he had to try to demonstrate that his ego overrides all.

Originally Posted by bonvoyage (Post 3811950)

It seems as a whole that airlines/and unions should make things more clear for everyone or at least send some memos out reminding everyone of the rules. Recently I listed the JS on a JetBlue flight, although I got a seat in the back the gate agent told me “show this to the captain”. And printed on that form was “Captains Copy”. I politely knocked and stepped in and introduced myself, said I listed JS and got a seat in the back as I politely held the “captains copy” form out to the female captain. She gave me a snarky look and said if you have a seat in the back you don’t need to come up here and bother me.

Right. The policy says I need to, I was instructed by the gate agent as well, but in her own rules I don’t need to. I’ve also been told by a legacy pilot that “he doesn’t control the seats in the back, only the gate agent does”. And that if I have a seat in the back, go sit down because it’s an airline policy that the seat was given to me, not his own; he only controls who rides the JS.

too many pilots have their own rules about this and it’s just confusing.

Originally Posted by DenVa (Post 3812963)

And, why must they absolutely do it? But the 7 OAL FA’s just walk on through. I’ve never seen one check in with the fight deck.
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Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3813719)

yes, and you could have easily defused it. Instead you let it fester until somebody had to step in and tell him what you should have yourself.

you're both wrong.

Originally Posted by BitterAAhole (Post 3813730)

No need to check in for a jumpseat if you have a seat in the back, I've done it 3 times this past year and haven't been called out on it.
I've had a few people do it on flights I operate and I prefer it that way. I don't want to talk to or see your face.

Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3813745)

unless of course, you’re an off-line pilot, then yea you do.

Originally Posted by BitterAAhole (Post 3813753)

Not really.

Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3813769)

so if I am some poor Spirit pilot jumpseating on AA how do I know which captain I’m getting on this flight?

The kind that’s gonna chew my ass out for not checking in or the kind that’s gonna chew my ass out because I did check-in and bothered him?

I know you are a troll. You know how I know?

Originally Posted by BitterAAhole (Post 3813730)

No need to check in for a jumpseat if you have a seat in the back, I've done it 3 times this past year and haven't been called out on it.
I've had a few people do it on flights I operate and I prefer it that way. I don't want to talk to or see your face.

Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3813788)

None of those 3 times were when I was the captain. And IDGAF what you prefer. My company requires me to check your credentials, regardless where you are sitting. If you would walk to the back without checking in, I would walk you back out. Especially with your attitude.

Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3813797)

yes but before do, make sure they don’t have a confirmed seat. I have had some other airline pilots DH on my flight before. And thank God I made sure they weren’t jumpseater a before I accosted them or I would of been embarrassed.

Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3813797)

yes but before do, make sure they don’t have a confirmed seat. I have had some other airline pilots DH on my flight before. And thank God I made sure they weren’t jumpseater a before I accosted them or I would have been embarrassed.

Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3813983)

Absolutely. And with a smile:"hi, just checking, are you NR/PS/DH or JS?".

Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3814090)

And I probably would not know he was even on the "jet", because I am definitely not the uniform police. But BitterAAhole just does not sound very likeable.