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Old 06-20-2024 | 12:59 PM
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All check in. Sorry That's the way it is.
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Old 06-21-2024 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DenVa
So, 8 pilot JS’ers all with a seat in the back are supposed to check in? Talk about task interruption.
Yup. What does your manual say?

And, why must they absolutely do it? But the 7 OAL FA’s just walk on through. I’ve never seen one check in with the fight deck.
Again, read what's in your manual. Are they nonrevs? At my shop, not required to check with the captain. Are they jumpseaters? Required to check with the captain. Right there in the manual. I don't make the rules, but I'm paid very handsomely to follow them.


And, yes, I’ve seen this happen. The poor pilots couldn’t get anything done without being interrupted.
And I have too. And I don't allow myself to get rushed or pushed. You're a big boy, deal with the interruptions of getting fellow pilots home or to work. If we go late, we go late, but we go when I'm ready, and I'll never hear a peep about it.
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Old 06-21-2024 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Peoplemvr
All check in. Sorry That's the way it is.
It depends on the air line. Or Air Line.
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Old 06-21-2024 | 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
It depends on the air line. Or Air Line.
I see what you did there. But regardless of an actual FOM requirement, it’s still proper etiquette.
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Old 06-21-2024 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
I see what you did there. But regardless of an actual FOM requirement, it’s still proper etiquette.
Sorry Fangs, but the word 'etiquette' doesn't seem to appear in the Millennial/Gen Z vocabulary or dictionary. Is that like another word for a fancy latté?
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Old 06-21-2024 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Sorry Fangs, but the word 'etiquette' doesn't seem to appear in the Millennial/Gen Z vocabulary or dictionary. Is that like another word for a fancy latté?
ROFL. Nice.
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Old 06-21-2024 | 05:35 AM
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At my airline, jumpseating flight attendants aren't required to check in with the captain. Pilots on the other hand are. The FOM says that captain must check their documents regardless of where they sit. I will also say that just like other sections of the FOM and FAR's, individual compliance is hit or miss. Some people don't really read the books and ignorance is bliss, some make individual decisions as to which rules they follow, and others simply do what ever their manuals say. Being that you never know which captain is up front, always check in with your documents ready and politely ask for permission to ride and you'll never have issues.
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Old 06-21-2024 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DenVa
And, why must they absolutely do it? But the 7 OAL FA’s just walk on through. I’ve never seen one check in with the fight deck.
In decades, I've never had a JS FA check-in. Not once. Must not be a thing.
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Old 06-21-2024 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
In decades, I've never had a JS FA check-in. Not once. Must not be a thing.
Interesting. At my airline it’s not required by the FOM (anymore), but pretty much all FA’s check in.

My only pet peeve about that is, if you are going to check in, don’t be like the ones who essentially throw their boarding pass on the center console, interrupt the conversation/brief, and announce “I’m your jumpseater”.

Etiquette and courtesy are not hard, and go a long way.
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Old 06-21-2024 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Yup. What does your manual say?



Again, read what's in your manual. Are they nonrevs? At my shop, not required to check with the captain. Are they jumpseaters? Required to check with the captain. Right there in the manual. I don't make the rules, but I'm paid very handsomely to follow them.



And I have too. And I don't allow myself to get rushed or pushed. You're a big boy, deal with the interruptions of getting fellow pilots home or to work. If we go late, we go late, but we go when I'm ready, and I'll never hear a peep about it.
That would be a nice ASAP close out. “You’re a big boy, deal with it better.”

task interruption has been a hot topic in the past. It’s just funny to me that checking ID’s of people in the back is seen as necessary when we are supposed to be focusing on things up front. It just adds to the multiple things that can break a preflight pattern.

Anyway, slow your roll dude. I’m just showing the absurdity of making one group check in while another walks on through when the destination is the same. It’s like this where I work as well.

At, swa, is an OAL FA a non rev or FA jumpseater? If non rev, why wouldn’t a pilot with C31 be considered one?

full disclose, I check in no matter what. And, I understand doing what manuals say. That doesn’t mean the process couldn’t be better.
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