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jerryleber 07-30-2024 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by B200 Hawk (Post 3824446)
Agreed with it all. One question that makes me wonder why, why does it work fairly well in Europe with RyanAir/EastJet?

https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...es-2024-07-22/

PineappleXpres 07-30-2024 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3824329)
Just talking out of my butt, I'd guess the ULCC problems are due in large part to the legacies adopting basic economy, super saver, etc fares to compete with ULCC. I'm sure the ULCC managers gooned some stuff up too, that's pretty par for the course for almost all airline managers.

Even SWA (not a ULCC) is moving to a more legacy-ish paradigm (assigned seats).

Yeah I agree. Once Legacies started basic economy, what were the ULCCs gonna do? Push harder into ULCC territory? Brulch!

rickair7777 07-30-2024 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by B200 Hawk (Post 3824446)
Agreed with it all. One question that makes me wonder why, why does it work fairly well in Europe with RyanAir/EastJet?

Do their legacy-equivalent bother to compete at that price point? Serious question, IDK.

Chimpy 07-30-2024 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by B200 Hawk (Post 3824446)
Agreed with it all. One question that makes me wonder why, why does it work fairly well in Europe with RyanAir/EastJet?

I believe Ryanair is not actually doing all
that well as of late

SonicFlyer 07-30-2024 05:41 PM

Here are some charts from the video....



https://i.postimg.cc/SsSK8Hj9/Total-Market-Share.png




https://i.postimg.cc/cH0vhrkr/Post-C...overy-LCCs.png




https://i.postimg.cc/LXDnb2Gv/Post-COVID-Recovery.png

SonicFlyer 07-30-2024 05:42 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/wvLkyyyM/2023-industry-margins.png




https://i.postimg.cc/15jNSRXj/P-E-Ratios.png





https://i.postimg.cc/nczQN9Fm/Margins.png

SonicFlyer 07-30-2024 05:43 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/kGjRBqcD/Load-Factors.png




https://i.postimg.cc/c44QZ5mr/Gross-Revenues.png




https://i.postimg.cc/tRd596Gm/Ancillary-fees.png

SonicFlyer 07-30-2024 05:44 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/sD65296K/Fuel-vs-Labor-Costs.png




https://i.postimg.cc/yx70DfCp/Fuel-Costs.png




https://i.postimg.cc/3R5XT8ST/Fleet-Size.png


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