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MaxQ 05-10-2026 03:42 AM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 4034032)
You mad bro?

"mad as a hatter"

Bestglide 05-10-2026 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 4034110)
Press a position is what previous administrations did. And one got a deal
with Iran that allowed restrictions and monitoring. Outright assassinations govt officials and bombing the country is not “press position.” That is war.


Ironic, your second part. SHTF in this country in March 2020 and some of you couldn’t be bothered with a vaccine or a mask. So please don’t start on cower like a bunch of weaklings.

Do you still wear one in a car by yourself? GMAFB!


FangsF15 05-10-2026 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 4034110)
Press a position is what previous administrations did. And one got a deal
with Iran that allowed restrictions and monitoring. Outright assassinations govt officials and bombing the country is not “press position.” That is war.


Ironic, your second part. SHTF in this country in March 2020 and some of you couldn’t be bothered with a vaccine or a mask. So please don’t start on cower like a bunch of weaklings.

Even Chuck Schumer called out Obama’s deal as terrible on the senate floor, and would have led them to a nuke by now already. It’s on video. That deal was a massive giveaway, and released over a BILLION dollars in cash Iran used to make EFP IED’s that killed and maimed our boys (and a few girls).

Since you brought it up, masks are worthless, unless they are N-95, properly fitted, and not jammed in your pocket 10x a day (contaminating your hands, pockets, and anything else you touch. Also, it wasn’t a vaccine. Despite what the MSM said, it did not “stop the spread”. Some famous personalities lied when they said “it stops with you”. “This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated “. Demonstrably untrue at best, lies at worst. It was an experimental therapeutic. One that we should all be thankful for, but it was by definition not a vaccine.

Buck Rogers 05-10-2026 04:48 AM

Funny how positions have changed over the past 10 years.

From a piece written for the Huffington Post

Why I Fear the Dirty Bomb and You Should Too https://share.google/V3pCrI7tRoH70eu1Q

Turbosina 05-10-2026 04:50 AM

Well great, now we're back to arguing about covid. What's next? Pizzagate? Jewish space lasers?

MaxQ 05-10-2026 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes (Post 4034013)
Wut? Don't take my word for it, here it is straight from the White House, their program was obliterated in 2025:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/releases/...are-fake-news/

And because they threatened the US at one time, we should invade them? That would pretty much apply to at least half of the world at some time in the past. They didn't fly any airliners into US buildings, or surprise-attack our harbors. This does nothing but raise the cost of gas, create supply issues and spawn the next generation of terrorists where bombs have been dropped. Mark my words, this will have consequences in the future and for our kid's futures. The US going and messing with any country it pleases and dropping bombs when there is no actual threat to the US is what makes this perpetual.

Hell, this isn't even like where we have the Budapest Agreement with Ukraine and how they actually got invaded, prompting us to help supply weapons, but not even take direct military action, like we have in Iran. This is just insane. This should have been a 100% Israel action and even then we would have been still supporting Israel with weapons and other support, but at least we wouldn't have been fighting their war for them.

THIS!
Your major point about future consequences and how it creates perpetual enemies and perpetual war is at the heart of the 'real politik' criticism. ( moral travesties and evil have been largely absent from the national discussion in America. It is front and center in other nations of the world)
The lack of "and then what happens?" thought is absolutely astounding. And Israeli political leaders are just as guilty of it as the US donkeys.

The world had an agreement that for FIFTEEN years had Iran:
Give up 98% of its enriched uranium.
Destroy 2/3 of its centrifuges.
Agree to not enrich uranium beyond 3.x%.
Submit to inspections from multinational experts.
And they were in compliance.
And this was for FIFTEEN YEARS!

Iran got in return:
The return of some of its cash that had been frozen.
An easing of sanctions. ( which didn't happen due largely domestic Israeli and Americcentrifuge.

What we caused by pulling out of the agreement:
A closing of the door that may have lead to gradually returning Iran to the global workings of the nations.

A confirmation that regarding US/Iranian relations, that any diplomacy with America is essentially impossible. That due to how the American executive has evolved, any agreements made lack continuity and surety.
That the USA cannot be trusted to keep its word.

A belief that Iran was faced with the same conditions that evolved regarding Iraq during the Clinton years.
That is that it didn't matter what they did. Nothing they could do would satisfy certain powerful segments of both Israeli and American polity, other than capitulation.

Hence:
By reckless thoughtless action, Iran again was returned to a state of perpetual war.
Human nature being what it is, the assassination of Iran's leaders and initiation of war, all while involved in negotiations, "has awakened (some ordinary Iranians), and filled them with a terrible resolve."

Back to James observation.
There will be consequences.
There may be a long geststional period.
It may Illustrate how truly infantile obsession with the stock market is, as I fear the consequences will involve what truly matters.



jacinth 05-10-2026 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 4034110)
Press a position is what previous administrations did. And one got a deal
with Iran that allowed restrictions and monitoring. Outright assassinations govt officials and bombing the country is not “press position.” That is war.


Ironic, your second part. SHTF in this country in March 2020 and some of you couldn’t be bothered with a vaccine or a mask. So please don’t start on cower like a bunch of weaklings.

we had Italy’s data in March 2020. We knew then lockdowns, before the first one in LA April 7th, were completely unnecessary and would be net damaging. By July we had all the data on masking we needed documented in every country you could look at that masking had no impact whatsoever on spread. We had N95 data from Germany indicating the same. This data would remain consistent for the entirety of Covid. As for the Vaccine, there is no solid data anywhere showing it had any effect at reducing deaths or spread. In fact, look at the transmission rates prior and after vaccine campaign implementation in countries all over the world. The “vaccine” caused spread, by an exponential margin. even in 3rd world countries the data is irrefutable. It is highly likely the vaccine caused a net increase in deaths over any theoretically saved. I say theoretically because there isn’t actually anything solid to be able to argue it saved any lives at all. On top of the well documented severe side effects. Science is data driven. It isn’t hopium wrapped up in fear biased modeling.

As for oil, I agree with Trip on this. We will see 150 dollar/barrel oil. This is far from over. It will be worse than the 70’s oil embargo.

METO Guido 05-10-2026 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by jacinth (Post 4034151)
As for oil, I agree with Trip on this. We will see 150 dollar/barrel oil. This is far from over. It will be worse than the 70’s oil embargo.

We better hope-a-lot-not.


Consensus US vaccine recommendation…

Staying up to date with the latest vaccine is most important for people at higher risk. That includes adults over age 65, those with weakened immune systems, people who are pregnant, and people with chronic conditions, such as heart disease, lung disease or obesity.

Serious side effects from the COVID-19 vaccine are extremely rare. Because of that, even healthy adults benefit from the COVID-19 vaccine which lowers the risk of serious illness at a similar rate to the flu vaccine.
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AAdvocate 05-10-2026 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Hubcapped (Post 4034045)
What lol?!?! Did i randomly come on here and state that people that didnt serve will cower in the corner like weaklings? Im responding to HIS RIDICULOUS behavior. Are you even tracking whats going on?

be better

How is his behavior ridiculous? Because he didn't serve and doesn't agree with your viewpoints? Well I did and I would put my deployment record up against anybody. So stop using Military service as somehow making it like your point is better.

AAdvocate 05-10-2026 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 4034110)
Press a position is what previous administrations did. And one got a deal
with Iran that allowed restrictions and monitoring. Outright assassinations govt officials and bombing the country is not “press position.” That is war.


Ironic, your second part. SHTF in this country in March 2020 and some of you couldn’t be bothered with a vaccine or a mask. So please don’t start on cower like a bunch of weaklings.

hahhahaha, both paragraphs are utterly ridiculous. You've been thoroughly brainwashed.


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