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Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 4034032)
You mad bro?
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 4034110)
Press a position is what previous administrations did. And one got a deal
with Iran that allowed restrictions and monitoring. Outright assassinations govt officials and bombing the country is not “press position.” That is war. Ironic, your second part. SHTF in this country in March 2020 and some of you couldn’t be bothered with a vaccine or a mask. So please don’t start on cower like a bunch of weaklings. |
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 4034110)
Press a position is what previous administrations did. And one got a deal
with Iran that allowed restrictions and monitoring. Outright assassinations govt officials and bombing the country is not “press position.” That is war. Ironic, your second part. SHTF in this country in March 2020 and some of you couldn’t be bothered with a vaccine or a mask. So please don’t start on cower like a bunch of weaklings. Since you brought it up, masks are worthless, unless they are N-95, properly fitted, and not jammed in your pocket 10x a day (contaminating your hands, pockets, and anything else you touch. Also, it wasn’t a vaccine. Despite what the MSM said, it did not “stop the spread”. Some famous personalities lied when they said “it stops with you”. “This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated “. Demonstrably untrue at best, lies at worst. It was an experimental therapeutic. One that we should all be thankful for, but it was by definition not a vaccine. |
Funny how positions have changed over the past 10 years.
From a piece written for the Huffington Post Why I Fear the Dirty Bomb and You Should Too https://share.google/V3pCrI7tRoH70eu1Q |
Well great, now we're back to arguing about covid. What's next? Pizzagate? Jewish space lasers?
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
(Post 4034013)
Wut? Don't take my word for it, here it is straight from the White House, their program was obliterated in 2025:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/releases/...are-fake-news/ And because they threatened the US at one time, we should invade them? That would pretty much apply to at least half of the world at some time in the past. They didn't fly any airliners into US buildings, or surprise-attack our harbors. This does nothing but raise the cost of gas, create supply issues and spawn the next generation of terrorists where bombs have been dropped. Mark my words, this will have consequences in the future and for our kid's futures. The US going and messing with any country it pleases and dropping bombs when there is no actual threat to the US is what makes this perpetual. Hell, this isn't even like where we have the Budapest Agreement with Ukraine and how they actually got invaded, prompting us to help supply weapons, but not even take direct military action, like we have in Iran. This is just insane. This should have been a 100% Israel action and even then we would have been still supporting Israel with weapons and other support, but at least we wouldn't have been fighting their war for them. Your major point about future consequences and how it creates perpetual enemies and perpetual war is at the heart of the 'real politik' criticism. ( moral travesties and evil have been largely absent from the national discussion in America. It is front and center in other nations of the world) The lack of "and then what happens?" thought is absolutely astounding. And Israeli political leaders are just as guilty of it as the US donkeys. The world had an agreement that for FIFTEEN years had Iran: Give up 98% of its enriched uranium. Destroy 2/3 of its centrifuges. Agree to not enrich uranium beyond 3.x%. Submit to inspections from multinational experts. And they were in compliance. And this was for FIFTEEN YEARS! Iran got in return: The return of some of its cash that had been frozen. An easing of sanctions. ( which didn't happen due largely domestic Israeli and Americcentrifuge. What we caused by pulling out of the agreement: A closing of the door that may have lead to gradually returning Iran to the global workings of the nations. A confirmation that regarding US/Iranian relations, that any diplomacy with America is essentially impossible. That due to how the American executive has evolved, any agreements made lack continuity and surety. That the USA cannot be trusted to keep its word. A belief that Iran was faced with the same conditions that evolved regarding Iraq during the Clinton years. That is that it didn't matter what they did. Nothing they could do would satisfy certain powerful segments of both Israeli and American polity, other than capitulation. Hence: By reckless thoughtless action, Iran again was returned to a state of perpetual war. Human nature being what it is, the assassination of Iran's leaders and initiation of war, all while involved in negotiations, "has awakened (some ordinary Iranians), and filled them with a terrible resolve." Back to James observation. There will be consequences. There may be a long geststional period. It may Illustrate how truly infantile obsession with the stock market is, as I fear the consequences will involve what truly matters. |
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 4034110)
Press a position is what previous administrations did. And one got a deal
with Iran that allowed restrictions and monitoring. Outright assassinations govt officials and bombing the country is not “press position.” That is war. Ironic, your second part. SHTF in this country in March 2020 and some of you couldn’t be bothered with a vaccine or a mask. So please don’t start on cower like a bunch of weaklings. As for oil, I agree with Trip on this. We will see 150 dollar/barrel oil. This is far from over. It will be worse than the 70’s oil embargo. |
Originally Posted by jacinth
(Post 4034151)
As for oil, I agree with Trip on this. We will see 150 dollar/barrel oil. This is far from over. It will be worse than the 70’s oil embargo.
Consensus US vaccine recommendation… Staying up to date with the latest vaccine is most important for people at higher risk. That includes adults over age 65, those with weakened immune systems, people who are pregnant, and people with chronic conditions, such as heart disease, lung disease or obesity. Serious side effects from the COVID-19 vaccine are extremely rare. Because of that, even healthy adults benefit from the COVID-19 vaccine which lowers the risk of serious illness at a similar rate to the flu vaccine. |
Originally Posted by Hubcapped
(Post 4034045)
What lol?!?! Did i randomly come on here and state that people that didnt serve will cower in the corner like weaklings? Im responding to HIS RIDICULOUS behavior. Are you even tracking whats going on?
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 4034110)
Press a position is what previous administrations did. And one got a deal
with Iran that allowed restrictions and monitoring. Outright assassinations govt officials and bombing the country is not “press position.” That is war. Ironic, your second part. SHTF in this country in March 2020 and some of you couldn’t be bothered with a vaccine or a mask. So please don’t start on cower like a bunch of weaklings. |
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