ArcticDog

You might consider trying to get out and jumpseat on your new carrier if they allow you to do so. My airline will book pilots in training positive space in the JS for observation. It could help with your CRM skills by observing some real world ops as well as help "put the pieces together" that sometimes get lost in the training building. It has helped me at both airlines I have worked for. Good luck, hope this helps!

dojetdriver

Agreed. That type of answer alone will zap out about 5-6 HR type questions and shorten an interview, in the candidates favor.

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

Very glad you're back on top again!

Remember - there are no glamorous regionals! However, since you're at one that's even "less glamorous" than some others - things will only be getting better for you from now on.

Hang on to your current job for a while, especially since hiring has slowed down at many airlines. Aim for the left seat as soon as you can get it, and as soon as you are there start aiming for any instructor position - ioe instructor is best because you'll keep building your flight time while you instruct, but a sim. instructor or even a ground instructor position looks absolutely great on a resume to most recruiters out there.

Due to your personal experiences you'll be a great instructor because you'll probably be able to recognize your students’ problems way before they can. This way you can guide them in the right direction.

Hang in there and you’ll see that your future will be bright! Keep us posted on your progress please.

cubflyer

I'm glad to see this thread has been brought back up. Unfortunately, I busted my 1st recurrent PC a few days ago, and am really beginning to get nervous about the recheck. For what it's worth, the Captain busted too.

I've never failed a checkride before, and I've been flying for nearly 13 years. Been flying 121 for a year. I take complete responsibility for my mistakes and for not doing a better job of preparing in advance.

My questions is......do the instructors discuss issues amongst themselves about the pilots who bust? I mean, when I go in for my recheck, will the instructor be knowledgable about the mistakes I made? If so, do you think it causes pre-conceived notions about how the recheck will go? I want to be given a clean slate on the recheck.

By the way, I thought the instructor was fair and did what he needed to do. I take total blame for this.

ghilis101

probably. it depends on the size and style of your training department. i work at a company where everyone knows everyone on a first name basis. when i get into the cockpit with someone, they have already heard something good/funny/embarrasing/bad about me. same is true with our sim instructors and check airmen. it usually works for you, but i guess in rare cases it can work against you. also im sure when they fill out training reports for your file after the sim they go into detail about what areas are strong and weak. so yes, your next instructor will know and should be fair about it.

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

Sorry about the recurrent bust – was it sim or oral or both?

The instructors do discuss some issues but I wouldn’t sweat it. The way we handled busted check rides at my previous airline was to focus on the guys/gals weak spots but more as a way to teach proactively than to bust again.
Obviously there was a problem but they probably want to make sure it won’t happen again, that’s all.

How much time off before your next checkride did you get? Would it be possible to try to get an instructor or another crew member to give you some “mock up” checkride training? Even sim. rides can be “simulated” in the chair flying. You probably know exactly why you busted so maybe going over those procedures during some chair flying would make you sharper AND it would put your mind at ease.

Btw, don’t think that just because one instructor busted you another will feel “obligated” to do the same. Nothing could be further from the truth. Most instructors love to “instruct” so even though this will be a checkride, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ll throw in some “dual given” for you either before or maybe even during parts of your evaluation.

Good luck and keep us posted.

cubflyer

Just the Sim portion. Stupid errors..........This has been a real wake-up call!

flyinglow

Sorry to hear both of your and FlyJsh stories, I too have a failure on my record and am also 40 (UG) and am glad to hear that you can recover. I spent the last year trying to rebuild my confidence. Reading every manual that I can find on ebay. My exixting limitation is going from a C172 instructor to CRM, and the Tech stuff. I have been doing a lot of self study and also did a CRJ tranisiton course ( A less expensive one) I used that to help build my confidence and to see what areas I could improve on. I am still teaching and am finding it very difficult to get on with an airline. I also get very nervous for interviews. Which I am sure shows through. I would love to be in FyJSh
class it sounds like you would make not only a great instructor but an empathic one as well. And that goes a long way. Fortuntatly we do have glass panel C172s now. and that also helps with the glass transition. I also discovered Fly the Wing (Webb) I wish I could have discovered that for my
first class it would have made things a lot easier. One more additinal limitation besides finances it that I need to stay on the West Coast. I am married and am in an area that is very limited to jobs.

C152driver

flyinglow, were you at Mesaba last year?

flyinglow

No I was not. I here mostly good things about them though.