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Wingnutt 10-20-2007 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Bobs98tlr (Post 250347)
USAir and a couple other places. I think one came from Ryan International. Isnt FedEx looking for RR powered birds over the pratts?

Omni Air International is losing two of it's four 757-200's this year to FedEx. RB211-E4 powered. I imagine FedEx will be the largest operator of the 757 in the future. :cool:

bifff15 10-20-2007 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 250469)
I could have sworn that Boeing never built an official 'ER' model of the 757.

Are people just referring to winglet 757's as 'ERs' now?

Couldn't find anything on the Boeing web site about ER's. I do know that the first couple the USAF took delivery of did not have the range so Boeing added some long range tanks. UPS does the training for the USAF 757's.

sully606 10-20-2007 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 250469)
I could have sworn that Boeing never built an official 'ER' model of the 757.

Are people just referring to winglet 757's as 'ERs' now?

I don't know if it is officially an ER but the ex-TWA 75's that Delta has have HMGs and carry 1500lbs more fuel than the domestic 75s.

HMG=Hydraulic Motor Generator, it's an additional electric power source that runs on hyd. pressure.

FliFast 10-20-2007 07:53 PM

702TW was the ex-TWA bird in DL's colors. It looks pretty sharp. Glad to see that it has a good home with the good folks at DAL.

I believe (dusting off cobwebs) that when we (TWA) got our 757s that they were wired for 180 minute ETOPS (fire suppresion and HMGs) so that we could fly them to Hawaii and occasionally to Europe. I think that's where the "ER" designation came from, although I've never heard of a 757 ER- only a 757 with ETOPS capability. I guess just a matter of semantics.

I'm also guessing the winglets will help add a few miles to the range of the aircraft. At TWA, we used to fly the 757 from Barcelona, Spain (BCN) to JFK nonstop which had flight times in the Winter close to 9 hours.

I think there was a picture on here, or maybe airliners.net showing the ex-TWA 757 in DAL's colors with the winglets.

Finally, there was a picture on here showing on of FDX's 757 in the conversion shop down in Brookley/Mobile, ALA, and it was quite clear that it was an ex-USAir plane powered by RR RB-211 engines.

CVG767A 10-21-2007 05:49 AM

The winglets are supposed to add about 300 miles to the range of the 757.

FWIW, I've seen a Continental 757 (w/ winglets) pushing back in Berlin every week when I've arrived. If they can go from Berlin to NYC, they can cover much of Europe.

FlyByCable 10-21-2007 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by CactusCrew (Post 250392)
Who wouldn't ...

Pratts take forever to start, occasionally blow up, but have great reverse.

Rolls start quick, but use oil and reverse just makes more noise.

alvrb211 10-21-2007 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 250436)
Me. 12,000 hours flying the Pratts with no problems.

Seems like Rolls Royce really is on a roll. Rolls is now the worlds number 1 supplier to the widebody market. Securing over 80% of orders for the B757 with their superior RB211 was just the start.

There's no way Pratt can compete with GE and RR.

Professor 10-21-2007 07:29 AM

Our designation for the new 75's are in fact ER. They are pratt pw2037 powered, are 180 etops and have HDG's installed. Not sure if that ER designator is ours or an actual boeing designation.

We will be flying these jets on lower load European routes, shannon, orly etc.

Vader 10-21-2007 08:03 AM

It seems like the ex-TWA 75s at DAL have RJ seats in coach and lower windows and a very narrow isle, just like the CRJ200. I would'nt want to fly to Shannon or Manchester as a passanger in coach. But they look very sharp.

flaps 9 10-21-2007 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by alvrb211 (Post 250638)
Seems like Rolls Royce really is on a roll. Rolls is now the worlds number 1 supplier to the widebody market. Securing over 80% of orders for the B757 with their superior RB211 was just the start.

There's no way Pratt can compete with GE and RR.

Dont believe the hype!!!

The top 5 operators of the 757

AA 142
DL 136
UA 97
UPS 75
NW 72

4 of the 5 use PW 2000 series engines for their 75's.

Granted UPS uses PW's on only half of their fleet, but with 1050 757's delivered the above numbers represent aprox 30% of all 757's made.

Nice try :D


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