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12-26-2007 | 09:38 AM
#31
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From: B-737 Pilot
Besides the cost of fuel spiking, I think the choice of aircraft and the maint. issues that resulted were the biggest problem. As one of the orginal pilots, I know the FAA certification process also contributed. It cost so much and took so long. Then we had management changes every 6 months or so which didn't help.
We could get lots of people to try us but we disappointed them with canx. and late departures.
We could get lots of people to try us but we disappointed them with canx. and late departures.
What was your opinion of the 'Tims'? I heard they were in way over their heads.
12-26-2007 | 09:59 AM
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From: Economy Minus
Have your kid break out the crayons to illustrate the magitude of the situation.
By the Einstein... pilots and F/As were never consulted by management regarding decisions.
Not only the employees but family members too were affected by the sudden halt of operations. Did you know that crewmembers had family members either traveling to or from the UK on holiday at the companion pass rates. Now these innocents are stranded from home worring about how they will afford a ticket back home across the Atlantic.
Management had a duty and responsibility to their employees to make advance arrangements. Afterall... Independence had the courtesy to let their employees know they werer going to cease operations. I beleive Midway extended the same courtesy too.
Think for a second... do you think for one minute that management woke up on Sunday morning and decided to halt operations on the 24th? Ask your five year old child to draw the answer on a piece of paper.
Yeah... whiny crwemembers... come up with a more original response ace.
By the Einstein... pilots and F/As were never consulted by management regarding decisions.
Not only the employees but family members too were affected by the sudden halt of operations. Did you know that crewmembers had family members either traveling to or from the UK on holiday at the companion pass rates. Now these innocents are stranded from home worring about how they will afford a ticket back home across the Atlantic.
Management had a duty and responsibility to their employees to make advance arrangements. Afterall... Independence had the courtesy to let their employees know they werer going to cease operations. I beleive Midway extended the same courtesy too.
Think for a second... do you think for one minute that management woke up on Sunday morning and decided to halt operations on the 24th? Ask your five year old child to draw the answer on a piece of paper.
Yeah... whiny crwemembers... come up with a more original response ace.
Maybe when you are running a business like an airline, you don't broadcast two weeks in advance that you might be shutting down - that tends to discourage future ticket sales (not many people want to buy tickets on a distressed airline that may or may not be around when it comes time for their trip).
Maybe they were trying to work a deal for last-minute financing and it fell through...do you know for a fact that was not the case? Right, wrong, or indifferent, they made a business decision that was likely not something anyone wanted to do. I don't like it, but I understand it.
And I agree - I think it sucks that non-rev's get stuck traveling when an airline shuts down. And I know how it happens, first hand.
Anyway, thanks for the thoughtful, intelligent debate, "slick".
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