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Old 01-18-2008, 08:02 AM
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One of our ALPA guys told me that that the Regional Transport Association (RTA) is pressuring the FAA and Congress to LOWER it's requirements for an ATP certificate to AGE 20 and 1000 hours. Is this true?
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Why not? They went to age 65, why not go the other way too? With the video games they have out now, they are more than qualified to watch the screens on today's jets.
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On a side note, anyone see the cartoon in Novembers Playboy? It had two airline pilots in the cockpit of a (cartoon ish, obviously) 767 and the captian turns to the f/o and says "the technology on these babies has reached the point where we ought to be able to have a few drinks up here". I thought it was funny...
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On a side note, anyone see the cartoon in Novembers Playboy? It had two airline pilots in the cockpit of a (cartoon ish, obviously) 767 and the captian turns to the f/o and says "the technology on these babies has reached the point where we ought to be able to have a few drinks up here". I thought it was funny...
Somebody posted that in our lounge...didn't know it came out of playboy.
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Old 01-18-2008, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SCRWDbyMGMT View Post
One of our ALPA guys told me that that the Regional Transport Association (RTA) is pressuring the FAA and Congress to LOWER it's requirements for an ATP certificate to AGE 20 and 1000 hours. Is this true?
Is that a problem? Show me someone at age 20 who has 1000 hours and I'll show youa VERY heavy pencil..............
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ALPA better be all over this or they are not watching out for our careers! The ATA has one agenda and that is keeping pilot pay low! Raise the pay and 1500+ hour pilots will show up to play.
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If we want to raise our value in the marketplace the requirements to be in the right seat of a Part 121 RJ should be an ATP. Why should they not be qualified? If an RJ Captain is incapacitated who is going to land that jet with 50+ souls? The 150 hour dude?
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If we want to raise our value in the marketplace the requirements to be in the right seat of a Part 121 RJ should be an ATP. Why should they not be qualified? If an RJ Captain is incapacitated who is going to land that jet with 50+ souls? The 150 hour dude?
Why the RJ? Your 767FO seat doesn't require an ATP. Are you qualified to land?
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Yes it does require an atp and a type rating for international ops.
I am talking about the downward pressure on wages of the airline pilot. Instead of letting the supply curve catch up with the demand curve by raising wages, Regionals are allowed to deepen supply pool by lowering the requirements. By raising the requirements to an ATP and the requisite 1500 hours would shorten the supply and thusly raise wages. That in turn would exert upward pressure throughout the industry.

I didn't mean to denigrate the RJ or it's pilots. It's just an economic theory.
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Originally Posted by satchip View Post
If we want to raise our value in the marketplace the requirements to be in the right seat of a Part 121 RJ should be an ATP. Why should they not be qualified? If an RJ Captain is incapacitated who is going to land that jet with 50+ souls? The 150 hour dude?
I agree 100%...ANY seat in 121 should require an ATP.
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