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bober33 02-15-2008 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by subicpilot (Post 320374)
Always handle things in this order:
1. Try to resolve it with the offending individual. Talk.

If that doesn't work,

2. Tell your captain you are taking the matter to pro stan and go to your union professional standards rep. He should have a more formal chat with the guy. Usually this clears things up. Stress to him that you feel this is a safety issue that is not being fixed at the flight deck level. Nothing personal.

3. If you fly with him after this and he persists, then you can tell him if he doesn't knock it off, you are gonna rat on him to the CP. The professional Mr. Nice Guy approach didn't work and now you have to be a d*ck. Sometimes, some people don't respond to anything but disciplinary action. This is your last resort...even though you are in the right, you probably won't be very popular after doing this. Sometimes the right thing isn't the easy thing.

And calling in sick only dumps this problem captain on some other, possibly less assertive, first officer. You wouldn't be doing a responsible job by doing this.

Just my $00.02.

I think this is the way to resolve this problem, another is to call FATIGUE.

blastoff 02-15-2008 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by PMeyer (Post 320802)
No Lord of the Right Seat on the 135 & ERJ, I haven't but a clue. Come on, I was giving the CA the benefit of always being professional, and it just seems this guy is whining! Parking brake set!

I did however just pick up on the iPod, that is pretty lame.

OK, you missed it...

Thought you were flame bait or worse...some kid throwing barbs.

I'm actually lord of both seats in the 135...and a zipper-suited sky-god.:D

EDPM 02-15-2008 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by OnMyWay (Post 320349)
Man, this may sound drastic, and I hate to sound so anal, but I would call the chief on this. Simply because you would be held just as responsable for any violation (or worse) which may come from this guy yapping at the wrong time.
On a side note, I am not sure who you fly for. I am just an FO-in-training and have yet to go to sim. But my company spent several hours in indoc hammering this very situation into our heads. I could be completely over reacting here. Just my 2 cents.

Wow...most regionals have lowered their hiring mins to 500TT or lower these days, huh?

After reading this advice, I believe it.

EDPM

OnMyWay 02-15-2008 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by EDPM (Post 321133)
Wow...most regionals have lowered their hiring mins to 500TT or lower these days, huh?

After reading this advice, I believe it.

EDPM

Ouch!!!...............

NoWake200 02-15-2008 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by Eric Stratton (Post 320367)
Since you are new you should learn this right away. Call the union/Professional standards before you ever run to the chief pilot!!!

100% agreed, and get others friends who have flown with him to do the same.

I hate to this, but sometimes fear or nervousness may make people act this way.

Bond 02-15-2008 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by EDPM (Post 321133)
Wow...most regionals have lowered their hiring mins to 500TT or lower these days, huh?

After reading this advice, I believe it.

EDPM


Well with as much experience as he has (or lack there of) he should be concerned about passing initial and learning the airplane....I just love it when people post advice on this site without having a clue what they're talking about....

Deez340 02-15-2008 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by EDPM (Post 321133)
Wow...most regionals have lowered their hiring mins to 500TT or lower these days, huh?

After reading this advice, I believe it.

EDPM

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!

OnMyWay 02-15-2008 06:31 PM

Alright, alright, uncle already!

AZFlyer 02-15-2008 06:32 PM

....also love when big egos bust a new guys balls even though the person admits right away to being inexperienced. Funny how that works.

Slice 02-15-2008 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 321265)
....also love when big egos bust a new guys balls even though the person admits right away to being inexperienced. Funny how that works.

Love when guys that fly Warriors and Archers put Captain in their profile.:rolleyes::D


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