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Old 02-20-2008 | 10:01 AM
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At UAL, all new hires are initially put on the A320 or B737. There is a 3-yr lock. Currently, there is a shortage of B767 FO's, so management is letting pilots with seat locks break their lock and bid B767 FO. How long this will last is not known. If you come to UAL, plan on at least 3 years in the 320/737 seat, and hope you get lucky and get released from the lock.

Now, how this works with new hires I haven't figured out yet. I thought I heard that we had to put in some time before they would give us the opportunity to go to the 767.
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Old 02-20-2008 | 07:51 PM
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The latest is that the 767 FO seat is available to anyone on the seniority list that has completed training between now and the end of the year.
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Old 02-21-2008 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jetflyger
The latest is that the 767 FO seat is available to anyone on the seniority list that has completed training between now and the end of the year.
Very nice!!!
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Old 02-21-2008 | 05:46 PM
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Let me clarify that a little bit...

You must be able to hold it and right now it is not junior enough for any new hires. Guess what I was trying to say was that the 36 month seat-lock does not prevent you from going to the 767 IF your seniority can hold it. That will be the case until the end of 2008.

After you have finished training in the 737 or Airbus you can bid the 767...

Sorry if I was a bit unclear on that.
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Old 02-22-2008 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JJFlyer
Thanks to everyone. I agree that is truly sad that this is such a difficult decision.
I will likely go to the interview, and see if the decision needs to be made. It will be extremely difficult. I agree there is way more to life than money, but bills need to be paid. It would also likely take several years to attain a quality of life (schedule wise) that a senior RJ pilot experiences today. The future of the regional industry is certainly unclear as well.
Does anyone here have any info on how long it might take to hold a widebody FO position at UAL? It seems like there is the only livable wage for me.
Truly sad indeed..... I first applied at United in 1994 and never thought this would be such a tough decision. I would say the fear of furlough after a rough merger is the top thing holding me back from applying now. Things are not so great here, but the checks clear and I drive twenty minutes to work twice a week. I've got my wife and two little ones at home who have a lot at stake in any decision I make. It's all in the timing, and after ten years in the airline business, I know there's no guarantees.
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Old 02-22-2008 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Beagle Capt
Truly sad indeed..... I first applied at United in 1994 and never thought this would be such a tough decision. I would say the fear of furlough after a rough merger is the top thing holding me back from applying now. Things are not so great here, but the checks clear and I drive twenty minutes to work twice a week. I've got my wife and two little ones at home who have a lot at stake in any decision I make. It's all in the timing, and after ten years in the airline business, I know there's no guarantees.
That is the truth my friend..........
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