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Your tips are my salary? lol
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thanks for the greate information guys. If every airline agreed to increase their ticket prices for only 5 dollars!!!!! then CAL, DAL, and other ones wouldn't cancel their classes:D.
fly safe out there!!! |
Originally Posted by Linebacker35
(Post 355692)
The Oil companies have figured it out, its time that the airlines followed their lead!
Either consolidation or cooperation to rise prices are the only things that can save the industry "Cooperation" to raise ticket prices is illegal. Also, if one airline raises fares on a route, there is no guarantee that the others on the same route will follow suit. I am absolutely no apologist for management, but this is a very competitive business and raising fares ain't as simple as all that. Some form of re-regulation is the only thing that will bring fares up. And with re-regulation many of us might not have jobs flying airplanes. Hate to say it, but it's a tough business. |
Originally Posted by saab2000
(Post 355772)
"Cooperation" to raise ticket prices is illegal. Also, if one airline raises fares on a route, there is no guarantee that the others on the same route will follow suit. I am absolutely no apologist for management, but this is a very competitive business and raising fares ain't as simple as all that.
Some form of re-regulation is the only thing that will bring fares up. And with re-regulation many of us might not have jobs flying airplanes. Hate to say it, but it's a tough business. Yes I know "cooperation" is illegal. I mean more like an understanding between the airlines that they could raise fares to a level that can sustain profits. Though I do agree with you that this is nearly imposible in that someone will always try to undercut the rest. Which I believe more often than not is the LCC's. If they were to raise their fares the big legacies would do so in an instant. |
Everybody knows that full planes that don't make money are better than partially full planes that make money.
At least that's the theory for our airlines. |
Originally Posted by Pilotpip
(Post 355855)
TO-1, ECS and A/I via the TRS button on the MCDU.
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Originally Posted by bgmann
(Post 355667)
If you take just a 90-seat passenger airline aircraft...if the crew held out a tip jar, and assuming 2 FAs and 2 pilots. If every passenger just tipped $4 every flight, $1 per crew member, each crewmember would make $54,000 in addition to their current salary. Lets take a 1hr30min flight for example, and say you fly 900 hours per year (airline pilots are limited to 1000 hours per year)...
Makes for an avg. of 600 flights per year. Each crew member would make $54,000 more per year (before tax) in addition to their current salary. i.e take $23,000 starting for 1st yr. FO that would be $77,000. This theory disappoints me. But so true and so simple. It is only $4 per passenger. Lets put the word 'profession' back into the professional pilot career. PASS THE WORD ON. They can do the same for fuel prices. Just raise it an additional $1 or $2 in addition for jet fuel, making it $6 more per 1.5 hour flight. Just a few bucks will help with fuel prices, for now. What is $6 per person on a $500 ticket? Its negligible. But goes a long long way. You may be on to something.....Get a sign that says "I work for tips". :) |
Originally Posted by bgmann
(Post 355877)
I like the language. Sounds like an Embraer.
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Reminds me of the Bud Light Real Men of Genius "Discount Airline Pilot Guy" ad, "sure we're concerned for our safety, just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a round trip to Ft. Meyers."
A quick Google search will turn up a You Tube video or 4 with the radio ad in them if you've never heard it. |
Not to be sarcastic, but if fares like $49/one-way based on a roundtrip ticket were to go away, would airlines be able to raise fares and revenue per avail seat mile to make certain routes profitable ?
A couple snipets from former lives: If Brand X were to raise their fare $1 on the route : Anytown USA to Your Town USA; Brand Y would be listed as the carrier with the lowest fare, while Brand X would be listed as the carrier with the highest fare. Sounds silly, but not all passengers are brand-loyal so much so as they are pocketbook loyal. "Give me the cheapest ticket !!!" And the result: Brand Y, even though Brand X is only $1 more. Second tidbit: When I worked at Brand X we were the small fish on the trans-con market: JFK to SFO/LAX. We competed against two of the big carriers (pre-Jetblue). We wanted to fill our planes up by lowering fares on the route JFK to SFO and JFK to LAX. In response, the two big carriers reduced all the fares into and out of STL which basically poached traffic away from us at our mainstay hub. Is this illegal...nope. Is this a form of oligopoly...arguably, yes. The price on the transcon market was set by the big guys (pre-Jetblue) to cover their costs and any small fish that wanted to cut into that traffic was going to have to march in step or face the wrath of the big guys. FF |
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