Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major
Mesa on the brink of collapse >

Mesa on the brink of collapse

Search
Notices
Major Legacy, National, and LCC

Mesa on the brink of collapse

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-09-2008, 12:31 PM
  #1  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Just happy to be here Boss!
Posts: 200
Default Mesa on the brink of collapse

Today was a terrible day for Mesa. They are in very real danger of collapse.
1. Stock closed at .96. They are officially a penny stock. I could be wrong, but I believe NASDAQ will de-list a company if their stock price goes below $1. Someone please clarify if you know better.

2. They announced they want to sell more stock in order to raise capital. This signifies they are running low on cash and can not raise money in the traditional fashion...loans. See #1.

So if they are strapped for cash and can not get any more credit, they have to sell more shares...That is now virtually impossible if they are de-listed. With Oil still climbing, contracts being lost, an FAA investigation, and another likely judgement against them in the Aloha lawsuit, I don't see how they can survive beyond June.
ITSALLGOOD is offline  
Old 04-09-2008, 12:35 PM
  #2  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Posts: 439
Default

but it gained 4 cents in after hours trading.

Could be someone trying to set up later in the week for profit taking?

or some inverstors like the idea of issuing 37 million in stock to be off debt that is due in 2023?

I am not smart enough for stocks
reevesofskyking is offline  
Old 04-09-2008, 12:43 PM
  #3  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 510
Default

shorts covering
mwa1 is offline  
Old 04-09-2008, 12:44 PM
  #4  
Gets Weekends Off
 
buffmike80's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: E190 FO
Posts: 129
Default Wow

I don't believe that they have to go to court with and airline that is no longer in business, there is no one to represent the company, I don't think all the creditors will try and pursue it so JO won that battle but looks like he is going to lose the war. What was the board thinking when they extended his contract for another couple of years? But I almost believe this is what JO wants, he is a very shady business man and does not have any qualms with making back end deals, It would not surprise me one bit if he is pushing mesa down and cooking the books to lose money so that way they can file bankruptcy, reorganize and give the Pilots and Fa's another crappy contract and then come out of it all making a load of money for him and the other major shareholders and wouldn't you believe it they get the Delta contract back or move all the ERJ's out to Hawaii and do it 10% cheaper than what they did it before.
buffmike80 is offline  
Old 04-09-2008, 12:56 PM
  #5  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Just happy to be here Boss!
Posts: 200
Default

Buff,
I find it very hard to believe that the creditors of Aloha would not go down every road to get their money. Also, Aloha has ceased pax operations, but the corporation still exists...I believe they are still in the cargo business. You give JO too much credit...he is a shady business man, not a good one. Cooking the books could land him in jail. It is possible he is doing that but highly unlikely.

MWA1, are you saying the $.04 gain after hours was covering of shorts?? Do you know what the NASDAQ rules are re: stocks below $1. I could have sworn they de-list if you close below that value for more than a couple of days.
ITSALLGOOD is offline  
Old 04-09-2008, 01:18 PM
  #6  
Gets Weekends Off
 
INAV8OR's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Right hemisphere of DCFranken9's brain
Posts: 238
Default

The Stock must remain below $1 for 90 calender days for it to be delisted. Also if the stock stays at .89 cents for 80 days and in the last ten days it goes to $1.00 the delisting period restarts when the stock closes below a buck...
INAV8OR is offline  
Old 04-09-2008, 02:02 PM
  #7  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 744 CA
Posts: 4,772
Default

Bankruptcy doesnt mean the corporation doesnt exist.... and they certianly can pursue litigation...... NObody in their right mind.... will buy 37 million in stock in MESA ...nobody... and anybody that does... deserves what they get in the end.
HercDriver130 is offline  
Old 04-09-2008, 02:15 PM
  #8  
Prime Minister/Moderator
 
rickair7777's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,253
Default

Originally Posted by buffmike80 View Post
I don't believe that they have to go to court with and airline that is no longer in business, there is no one to represent the company, I don't think all the creditors will try and pursue it so JO won that battle but looks like he is going to lose the war.

Aloha is still operating cargo flights IIRC, and are in Ch. 11 not Ch.7 bankruptcy.

In Ch.11 the company is still operating and has every incentive to pursue the mesa lawsuit.

Even in Ch.7 the creditors are still almost certain to press forward with the lawsuit in hopes of boosting the company's assets before they divide it all up. I think we are talking about approximately $100 Million.


If they go Ch.7 the creditors might be more willing to settle with mesa for a smaller amount, since they do not have the emotional involvement that the Aloha management does. However, a settlement would mean that JO might have to pay up immediately...he might prefer to drag out a court battle instead.
rickair7777 is offline  
Old 04-09-2008, 02:16 PM
  #9  
Gets Weekends Off
 
CRJ1000's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2007
Position: B-747-400/8
Posts: 146
Default

Originally Posted by ITSALLGOOD View Post
Buff,
Aloha has ceased pax operations, but the corporation still exists...I believe they are still in the cargo business.
Apparently the cargo operation is parked because the pilots are jr. to most of those laid off and ALPA wants sr. pilots to keep flying.
CRJ1000 is offline  
Old 04-09-2008, 03:49 PM
  #10  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 510
Default

MWA1, are you saying the $.04 gain after hours was covering of shorts?? Do you know what the NASDAQ rules are re: stocks below $1. I could have sworn they de-list if you close below that value for more than a couple of days.[/quote]

i meant to answer the general question behind the question that losing stocks can go up in value as shorts seek to cover - "dead cat bounce." not really doing a technical analysis of a 4 cent rise.
mwa1 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
N2rotation
Regional
179
11-04-2008 08:19 PM
vagabond
Aviation Law
10
09-20-2008 12:50 PM
Squawk8800
Regional
5
04-08-2008 08:50 PM
mike734
Regional
2
11-03-2007 04:44 PM
LOW FUEL
Regional
104
08-17-2007 04:41 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices