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capncrunch 01-22-2009 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 542831)
I heard the same rumor. The Orient is dead for cargo at the moment and is not expected to pick back up for several years. Lets hope something can happen to keep the airframes since displacements will trickle down throughout the sytem.


We start ANC to ATL in May. My guess is the MSP crew will take it down South from there...

capncrunch 01-22-2009 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by rvr350 (Post 542830)
That's good news! I flew the 742 sim when i interviewed, and i was surprised at how easy to fly, and easy to land.

It's even easier to fly from the back seat! Once the flaps come up after takeoff, I'm deadheading. My only job is to drink coffee and decide when to toss the free crew meal in the oven. Livin' the dream.

capncrunch 01-22-2009 10:11 AM

I almost forgot to mention that there is no flight deck door. We use the whole second floor so I can stretch my legs and take a whiz as often as I like. Also, taking a 30 minute dump is always an option. Gotta love that!

Fly4hire 01-22-2009 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 542823)
I agree, if I were FDAL I would too. We'll see.

I've heard rumors that management is going to give the freighters a test drive in South America. If that turns out successful they many have a new lease on life. That is good for everyone.

I also heard the freighters are still making big money, especially with CRAF contracts. The comments from RA might be for public consumption to appease the investment community over 4Q losses due bad hedges. They like to see you do "something" in response to a loss. We'll see if it really happens, or if they are replaced with something else. As long as gas is cheap they are capable of making a profit. Moving the operation out of ANC might make sense.

Eric Stratton 01-22-2009 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 542844)
I almost forgot to mention that there is no flight deck door. We use the whole second floor so I can stretch my legs and take a whiz as often as I like. Also, taking a 30 minute dump is always an option. Gotta love that!

The only time that's not an option is if it's single pilot ops.

newKnow 01-22-2009 11:52 AM

For those of you who are interested, in ANC there are:

747-200 Captains: 45 Blockholders / 34 Reserves

First Officers: 38 Blockholders/ 19 Reserves

Second Officers: 48 Blockholders/ 30 Reserves



214 Total Pilots

(As of May 2009)

dragon 01-22-2009 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 542893)
For those of you who are interested, in ANC there are:

747-200 Captains: 45 Blockholders / 34 Reserves

First Officers: 38 Blockholders/ 19 Reserves

Second Officers: 48 Blockholders/ 30 Reserves



214 Total Pilots

(As of May 2009)

Why 79 CAs and only 58 FOs?

newKnow 01-22-2009 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by dragon (Post 542901)
Why 79 CAs and only 58 FOs?

You are asking the wrong person. :rolleyes:

Superpilot92 01-22-2009 01:31 PM

Is it for augmented crews or is it because Captains are older and call in sick more ;)

sailingfun 01-22-2009 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 542848)
I also heard the freighters are still making big money, especially with CRAF contracts. The comments from RA might be for public consumption to appease the investment community over 4Q losses due bad hedges. They like to see you do "something" in response to a loss. We'll see if it really happens, or if they are replaced with something else. As long as gas is cheap they are capable of making a profit. Moving the operation out of ANC might make sense.

Delta management in several online discussions over the last year has stated the freight operation has been losing money and is not profitable. This was before the lastest meltdown. I don't think the freighters have been making big money in the last few years. It is my understanding that we do not have any freight CRAF contracts. We do have CRAF contracts for moving troops. Both the DAL side and the NWA side have ongoing contracts. The contracts are not aircraft specific. I understand NWA has kept 2 747-200's in a passenger configuration that they use for CFAF troop flights. Delta uses a variety of aircraft for the contracts as the flights come up. The head of Delta maintenance was asked about 6 months how long the 200's would be flying and he replied that it was his understanding they would be retired shortly. This was of course before the big drop in fuel. Lets hope that the drop in fuel has made them rethink this and they will attempt to find another market where the aircraft can make money.


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