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Cycle Pilot 05-03-2008 07:28 PM

Delta New Hire Schedule Question...
 
I'm in the May 5th class at Delta. I was wondering... at what point do you find out what the rest of your training schedule is? Do you find out during the 10 day "orientation" or do you go home and wait for them to call? We're moving and I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect over the next couple months! Thanks!

TBoneF15 05-03-2008 07:50 PM

you find out during indoc. First mid-end of first week, if I remember right.

Cycle Pilot 05-03-2008 07:51 PM

Thanks, TBone... you rock!

Bluto 05-03-2008 07:58 PM

You should know your full schedule well before you leave ATL. Basically, after you bid your aircraft they start working on the schedule. I can't remember exactly when we got ours, but I think it was before the first weekend. Good luck, welcome aboard, and enjoy training. FYI, my schedule was pretty busy with 1.5 weeks off after class then about 5 days on, 2 off for the next 4 or so weeks of sim.

TBoneF15 05-03-2008 08:58 PM

don't count on any specific time off until you get your schedule. Couple people in my class got ZERO days off after indoc. Most had a few days to a week (I had 4 days). Some had several weeks. Once in training, you'll generally get a day or two off every week, but the sims run 24/7 so you probably will have your off days mid week.

rvr350 05-03-2008 09:05 PM

Above posts are all accurate. You'll choose your a/c assignment by mid pm on Mon., your personal full training schedule (up to your 44X checkride) should be given to you by Wed/Thur at the latest. You'll receive your first set of Jepps, along with company manuals on Wed. as well.

If your class is evenly split between the 7ER and md88 (which is very likely), and if your last 4 SSN is high, expect less time off than your colleagues sitting at the back of the classroom. Training starts by relative seniority, i.e. the most senior guys within the fleet start first, and then the junior group starts about a week behind.

Welcome aboard!

Cycle Pilot 05-04-2008 08:46 AM

Thanks for all the info, everybody! This helps me out a lot! I'm looking forward to class!

upndsky 05-04-2008 10:22 AM

They'll work with you if you need specific days off, but it better be for a good reason. In my class, one of the guys was able to swap with a more junior guy (who had a later training schedule) so he could get married. "Hey, Buffett's coming to town and I need that weekend off!" is probably not going to cut it.

I don't know how they'll consider that you're in the process of moving. Just ask on day 1 or 2 when you get there. Hopefully they can accommodate you.

rvr350 05-04-2008 07:49 PM

Your best option to find time to relocate would be talk to your OE planner sometime during your sim training (in your 300 series), so that they'll know what your plans are. They usually can accomodate most requests. If that doesn't work for you, talk to your fleet captain, and he'll straighten out for you.

slinky 05-04-2008 11:21 PM

They will work with you pretty well if your requests are timely and reasonable. Welcome aboard. Post the class drop!

Spaceman Spliff 05-05-2008 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by rvr350 (Post 379351)
Your best option to find time to relocate would be talk to your OE planner sometime during your sim training (in your 300 series), so that they'll know what your plans are. They usually can accomodate most requests. If that doesn't work for you, talk to your fleet captain, and he'll straighten out for you.

Heck, if you talk to BB on the first day, he can work with the training scheduling folks and delay your training a couple of weeks until you move. They will bend over backwards for you. At the very least, ask him what he recommends.

They want you to be 100% focused on training--they'd rather know about it now than later if it distracts you during training.

Lifeisgood 05-05-2008 08:54 AM

Indeed, they will work with your situation.

Many leadership folks stopped by my class to say hello and every one said:
"if you have something going on please tell us, we'll work with you. We want you to completely focus on your training and if there is something else on your mind it'll be hard to do".
They will delay your airplane training, pull you out (retaining you seniority number of course) a lot of times with pay too.
No questions asked, no blacklists, no "he is not a company man" reputations, no psychological warfare like "do you realize how much money we spend on training a pilot".

Very refreshing, I have never been treated like that. Delta is a great employer.
Welcome on board!

TBoneF15 05-05-2008 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by rvr350 (Post 379351)
Your best option to find time to relocate would be talk to your OE planner sometime during your sim training (in your 300 series), so that they'll know what your plans are. They usually can accomodate most requests. If that doesn't work for you, talk to your fleet captain, and he'll straighten out for you.

After 7 months on the sh-tty Florida market, we finally sold our house during indoc. I needed to close on the house and move early in OE, right after the sims. I went to the OE scheduler 6 weeks prior (during indoc) and told them what days I needed. I got the "I'll try, but no promises" answer. 6 weeks later, after multiple personal visits/phone calls/emails to the OE scheduler, and a personal visit with the fleet captain (who said he couldn't do anything for me and to talk to the OE scheduler), I was still sitting at "maybe". On the Friday before the Monday the movers showed up, I had my new-guy meeting with the chief pilot. He said "anything we can do to help you out?" Why yes, there is...his answer (100% true): "if you haven't heard anything by Monday (the day the movers were supposed to be there!), give me a call and I'll see what I can do". YGTBSM...I almost left my ID on his desk I was so p-ssed off.

It worked out, but I didn't find out until Sat that I would actually have those days off. Bottom line...everyone talked a good game, but it was like pulling teeth to get it to actually work out...and at the very last minute. Work it early and don't let up.

Spaceman Spliff 05-05-2008 12:48 PM

That's disappointing. I'm sorry to hear you had to go through that. I can imagine how stressful it was. Your story definitely purged some kool-aid from my system.

You are right, there is a huge difference between words and action. I would have hoped the company would man up for you. I don't exactly feel motivated to go above and beyond for folks who don't live up to their promises.

Maddoggin 05-05-2008 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by TBoneF15 (Post 379669)
After 7 months on the sh-tty Florida market, we finally sold our house during indoc. I needed to close on the house and move early in OE, right after the sims. I went to the OE scheduler 6 weeks prior (during indoc) and told them what days I needed. I got the "I'll try, but no promises" answer. 6 weeks later, after multiple personal visits/phone calls/emails to the OE scheduler, and a personal visit with the fleet captain (who said he couldn't do anything for me and to talk to the OE scheduler), I was still sitting at "maybe". On the Friday before the Monday the movers showed up, I had my new-guy meeting with the chief pilot. He said "anything we can do to help you out?" Why yes, there is...his answer (100% true): "if you haven't heard anything by Monday (the day the movers were supposed to be there!), give me a call and I'll see what I can do". YGTBSM...I almost left my ID on his desk I was so p-ssed off.

It worked out, but I didn't find out until Sat that I would actually have those days off. Bottom line...everyone talked a good game, but it was like pulling teeth to get it to actually work out...and at the very last minute. Work it early and don't let up.

Just curious how long ago that was. I know they changed out OE schedulers at some point and from what I have seen she has been very accommodating. I didn't ask for much, only a couple of specific days, but it was a simple task. I know a couple other people that needed a week off after their LOE and was granted with little hassle. Both times it never made it past the OE scheduler to get handled.

Hopefully they fixed the glitch...

TBoneF15 05-05-2008 12:58 PM

This was Jan/Feb of this year. Same scheduler still works there.

Spaceman Spliff 05-05-2008 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Maddoggin (Post 379678)

Hopefully they fixed the glitch...

Yeah...just like they fixed Milton's payroll "glitch" in Office Space...


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