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User Name 05-22-2008 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 388331)
Turbine PIC is turbine PIC. Simple as that. As long as an employer doesn't specify that the turbine PIC has to be multi, then you have nothing to worry about.

Had a conversation with a DOO of a 91/135 jet charter company once. He said the following:

"I can hire a guy with 1000 multi-PIC piston...I can't do a THING with a guy with 1000 hours of single-engine turbine time."

Maybe start by posing the following question: "How many guys here moved from the PC-12 into a jet or multi-turboprop?" Sure, a lot of guys might say "I did!" but they were sitting right there in new-hire ground school with guys that had ZERO turbine time and came out of piston twins.

IMHO, flying a PC-12 isn't about building useful, loggable time to get you someplace else. It's about a great schedule and a good QOL at that particular operator. Period.

TRS531 05-22-2008 09:22 PM

Alpha flying will be getting the GROB SPn's to go along with the PC-12's soon so that multi-turbine will be available there....get some good experience and have fun flying the PC12 and then move on to the jet.

And you'll still get the good QOL and schedule:D

sdpilot75 05-22-2008 09:26 PM

I have over 4000 hours of multiengine time and 3900 hours of multiengine turbine time 200 of which is multiengine Turbine pic. So I guess I am wondering if I would be ok with having about 800 pic turbine in the Pilatus and have the magical 1000 Turbine PIC to get the job I really want. Does anyone know what industry standard is for Pilatus pay?

rickair7777 05-23-2008 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by sdpilot75 (Post 389084)
I have over 4000 hours of multiengine time and 3900 hours of multiengine turbine time 200 of which is multiengine Turbine pic. So I guess I am wondering if I would be ok with having about 800 pic turbine in the Pilatus and have the magical 1000 Turbine PIC to get the job I really want. Does anyone know what industry standard is for Pilatus pay?

Maybe. It's not ideal, but at least you have some ME TPIC...it would be best I think if that 200 hours was at a 121 regional, as opposed to part 91.

ImEbee 05-23-2008 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 389251)
Maybe. It's not ideal, but at least you have some ME TPIC...it would be best I think if that 200 hours was at a 121 regional, as opposed to part 91.

The point I was also going to make. I think part 121 experience plays a big part. I'm not sure how many have gone single pilot flying the metro or 1900 at Ameriflight straight to a major. Unfortunatly I don't think single engine, PIC is going to impress many folks at Delta, SWA etc. On the other hand if you don't mind making another step prior to the majors (i.e. regional) Pilatus time would be a fantastic way of building time!

Good Luck:)

AV8ER 05-23-2008 08:29 AM

:)If an airplane doesn't require a First Officer, does that make the pilot the captain???

paxhauler85 05-23-2008 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by sdpilot75 (Post 389084)
So I guess I am wondering if I would be ok with having about 800 pic turbine in the Pilatus and have the magical 1000 Turbine PIC to get the job I really want.

If the job you want is SWA, they want multi-engine turbine PIC, or fighter time.

From the research I have done (fairly extensive, since I would like to work there), they wouldn't hire someone with most of their 1000 TPIC in a single.

If they would, you'd see a lot of people fighting over caravan jobs.

EAHINC 05-23-2008 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by sdpilot75 (Post 389084)
I have over 4000 hours of multiengine time and 3900 hours of multiengine turbine time 200 of which is multiengine Turbine pic. So I guess I am wondering if I would be ok with having about 800 pic turbine in the Pilatus and have the magical 1000 Turbine PIC to get the job I really want. Does anyone know what industry standard is for Pilatus pay?


I'm the owner/pilot of a part 91 PC12 based at SNA. I've found that PC12 pay can be all over the place from part 135 operators to part 91.

I have a highly experienced pilot fly with me on all flights. He is directly responsible for ALL maintenance schedule and paper work. He is the 'manager' of the airplane and simply not just the pilot. I expect him to handle every issue relating to the airplane. The vast majority of the flights are from SNA into Mexico and Guatemala.

We provide full medical, dental and pick-up the lodging when out of the country but all other additional expenses are his responsibility. He wasn't looking to build additional flight time and I wasn't going to hire him if he was. We both attend recurrent training together every year.

I provide him with a 'stable' annual salary of approximately $72,000 with a good QOL and in return was only interested in a reliable and experienced employee.

EAHINC

Ottopilot 05-23-2008 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by AV8ER (Post 389263)
:)If an airplane doesn't require a First Officer, does that make the pilot the captain???

Yea, I always thought Captain was not just a two pilot crew, but an airline two pilot crew. If you don't sign a flight release for a 135 or 121 airliner as PIC- you are not a captain! I was not a "captain" on the corporate aircraft or GA aircraft I flew; I was the PIC. I think people throw the term "captain" around too much.

Pilotpip 05-23-2008 10:27 AM

If the job gives you good pay and good quality of life, take it.


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